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Chuck,

Try the term TAR for Tenth Admendment Republican

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Either way, I am with you.

1 posted on 08/21/2002 7:00:41 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator
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To: VRW Conspirator
What's "Cuck" short for?
2 posted on 08/21/2002 7:04:24 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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There are times where I think about dropping the "conservative" label and calling myself an Americanist. It seems the name conservative has been co-opted by people who were liberals during the days of the New Deal, Fair Deal, Great Frontier and Great Society and jumped ship when they didn't want to be identified with the pot smoking monsters they helped create.
3 posted on 08/21/2002 7:05:17 PM PDT by Commander8
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"There is nothing new under the sun."

en·tro·py   Pronunciation Key  (ntr-p)
n. pl. en·tro·pies

  1. Symbol S For a closed thermodynamic system, a quantitative measure of the amount of thermal energy not available to do work.
  2. A measure of the disorder or randomness in a closed system.
  3. A measure of the loss of information in a transmitted message.
  4. The tendency for all matter and energy in the universe to evolve toward a state of inert uniformity.
  5. Inevitable and steady deterioration of a system or society.

4 posted on 08/21/2002 7:05:31 PM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch
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How about passing around the lithium carbonate, or maybe we just all move BACK to El Paso where we can get it free in the drinking water.
5 posted on 08/21/2002 7:06:01 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Can't really argue with this on merit. Of course the media types have already demonized constitutionalists as being wacko-extremist ultra-conservatives.
6 posted on 08/21/2002 7:09:03 PM PDT by subterfuge
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I am with you my good man.

To make it happen we must educate our young to the principles of limited government and unfettered markets.

A near impossible task as long as we have government schools and the National Education Association.
8 posted on 08/21/2002 7:10:40 PM PDT by BADJOE
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Welcome to the dark side, Chuck! Someone else who just realized that the difference between Democrats and Republicans is two percentage points separating the rates of federal government growth supported by the parties.
12 posted on 08/21/2002 7:16:03 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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Once Republicans (conservatives) are in office...

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Few Republicans are conservatives. Most people calling themselves conservatives aren't even conservatives.

13 posted on 08/21/2002 7:16:04 PM PDT by RLK
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At one time, I was proud to call myself a conservative. No more

So what are calling yourself now?

I still consider myself a (constitutional) conservative, but no longer think the current gutless crop of GOP party leaders are speaking the same language as I am.

Fear not, though, it seems the far left Looney wing of the jackass party is no longer able to fool the general population.

I believe you will see a lot more centrist enter into politics from both sides of the coin. That's why you are seeing less difference.

Whether that is good or bad, time will only tell.

14 posted on 08/21/2002 7:16:32 PM PDT by JZoback
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Nothing in the American Constitution prevents Americans from electing socialist politicians and governments. It's ridiculous to blame conservatives for this state of affairs because they voted for politicians who promised to roll back the state but then reneged. I say blame those POLITICIANS (who are mostly RINOs).
15 posted on 08/21/2002 7:17:06 PM PDT by Ipberg
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Instead, call me a constitutionalist.

Self nullification....why leave it to someone else.

16 posted on 08/21/2002 7:18:51 PM PDT by Consort
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Chuck nails it. Thanks for the post.
17 posted on 08/21/2002 7:20:43 PM PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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People who believe they are voting for a substantive change of direction by voting for either major party are kidding themselves.

Correct. Republicans are not even successful in maintaining the status quo- inflating federal education, pushing socialized prescription drugs to name a few. Despite this, there is a substantial difference in the court appointments. The Supreme Court is the last hope in curbing the track to socialism and the expansion of the federal government. The replacements for O'Connor, Rehnquist, Stevens, and Ginsburg are vital.

19 posted on 08/21/2002 7:24:41 PM PDT by Fast 1975
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There's a world of difference between a Conservative and a Republican. At least, in my book there is.

I don't blame Chuck for wanting to eschew Republicanism but he should not give up his ideals by saying he is no longer a Conservative.

Being a Conservative is not as simple as joining a political party.

20 posted on 08/21/2002 7:26:17 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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Well said. I agree with everything except for his equating Republicans with Conservatives.
23 posted on 08/21/2002 7:59:37 PM PDT by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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Politics move in cycles. This year is like 1912 or 1936 or 1964, a high watermark for statism. And Bush is like Eisenhower or Nixon, a moderate Republican, at least as far as the size of government and powers of the state are concerned.

Pick your Reagan now and in 15 or 20 years he may be able to make some real changes. Perhaps even sooner, though it's not likely. And pick the issues you want to fight on now and in the future.

"Roll back government all along the line" isn't a practical issue. It has no priority, no point that you can press. To attack everywhere is to attack nowhere, just as to defend everything is to defend nothing.

Third Party candidates may be a valuable way to let off steam or to telegraph your disgust with the Republican, but in the end they probably cause more frustration than they relieve.

24 posted on 08/21/2002 8:09:07 PM PDT by x
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Unfortunately, rank and file conservatives seem more than willing to accept an increase of socialism, internationalism, and liberalism as long as Republicans are overseeing it. Conservatives seem totally oblivious to the ominous direction of the country when Republicans are in charge. As a result, conservatives and liberals, Democrats and Republicans, are working together to take America further and further down the road of socialism.

I'm afraid he's right neither party is for a true change in direction. Both are playing variations of the same socialist tune and all too often it's harmonizing. I think it goes something like this "We are the World".

28 posted on 08/21/2002 8:32:13 PM PDT by cva66snipe
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call me a constitutionalist. I am convinced that the only chance that freedom and independence have of surviving the next 50 years is by a radical return to constitutional government. The status quo must go!

I wish someone would give a definition of "Constitutionalist". I am for the constitution, but I am a conservative. We now have about 15 flavors of Conservative and now a brand new label of "constitutionalist to throw around. I have 100 bucks that you could get 5 "constitutionalists" to give a definition and all 5 would be different. It is a monumental waste of time.

32 posted on 08/21/2002 8:53:09 PM PDT by Texasforever
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I was looking at my state board and a Freeper posted this nice little fact. For those unknowing Phil Bresden is a Democrat a Liberal one to be exact running against Congressman Van Hilleary-R-TN for the governors office. Yet the leader of the GOP Senatorial Election Campaign does what?

Message below as posted.

Go to the Knoxville News Sentinel political contributions and see who the Frists have donated to. This is the guy in charge of the Republican Senatorial Election campaign?

http://campaign.knoxnews.com/

Search by donor: Frist

DR. THOMAS FRIST, JR 508 BELLE MEADE BOULEVARD NASHVILLE TN Phil Bredesen 07/13/2001 $2,500.00

WILLIAM FRIST 3827 RICHLAND AVENUE NASHVILLE TN Phil Bredesen 07/13/2001 $2,500.00

PATRICIA FRIST 508 BELLE MEADE BOULEVARD NASHVILLE TN Phil Bredesen 07/13/2001 $2,500.00

ROBERT FRIST, JR 209 10TH AVE. S SUITE 450 NASHVILLE TN Van Hilleary 05/04/2001 $1,000.00

MRS. THOMAS FRIST 508 BELLE MEADE BLVD. NASHVILLE TN Marsha Blackburn 12/11/2001 $1,000.00

Looks like the Frists are more RINO than Republican!

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Yes indeed it does you see Bresden is a Tenn Care or rather Hillary Care shill running for governor. Now why would the Frist family be supporting him? Especially the ranking Republican U.S. Senator? So much for party loyalities we are told we must have to win. Post this to the next person who says you must support the GOP at all cost. Two parties one goal.

35 posted on 08/21/2002 9:02:09 PM PDT by cva66snipe
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Yep I agree with ya.

You left out a major point though, TAXES !!

Republicans talk about tax cuts and tax reform but rarely deliver. Republicans and President GWB gave us a refund of a whopping average of about $500.00 ea. WHOOPPEEEEEE !!!!! I'm frickin rich now !!! After all I have paid thousands upon thousands in taxes over the years and I should be damned glad to get a pennance back.

Until we get rid of both criminal parties that take our taxes and waste them we will all be forever in chains !!

38 posted on 08/21/2002 9:09:53 PM PDT by unixfox
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