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"More guns in state parks will mean more gun deaths and injuries," said Lorraine Price of the Million Mom March, one of the gun-control groups lobbying Mr. Kilgore to retain the ban...

Like you, I am aghast at not previously having heard of this epidemic of state park gun killings...

1 posted on 08/21/2002 10:39:49 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice
Already posted HERE.

(No ego here, just lettin' y'all know. I've done the duplicate posting thing myself once or twice!)


2 posted on 08/21/2002 10:42:45 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: pabianice
So, let's see now...if I was a lunatic looking for a little action, and I wanted to avoid the possibility of getting hurt or whacked during my attempted chicanery, would I go to the nearest police station and try to rob/rape a cop, or would I go to a place where the rotten politicians have assured me there will be nothing but unarmed potential victims???? Decisions, decisions.....

If 1% of the population carries concealed, how many potential crimes would that thwart? The "Why can't we all just get along?" crowd has absolutely no sense at all.

3 posted on 08/21/2002 10:47:23 AM PDT by 45Auto
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"The backwoods trails and dense cover of parks provide a perfect setting for an attack or abduction. Women are especially vulnerable. There are no 911 call boxes in most parks, and park rangers are often miles away." (Washington Times)

Heat up every local talk show (where you don't waste time preaching to the choir, and usually aren't censored) in Virginia with calls from women whose "protective orders" have been worthless against stalker ex-husbands - with emphasis on how long police response time in that locality really is on a weekend night.

GUN REVIEWS free from ad-money bias - emphasizing woman-friendliness of tested guns!

4 posted on 08/21/2002 10:52:57 AM PDT by glc1173@aol.com
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Kilgore: Department lacks authority to ban guns from parks

LARRY O'DELL
Associated Press Writer Sep 11, 2002



RICHMOND, Va. (AP) _ The state Department of Conservation has no authority to ban people with concealed weapon permits from carrying guns into Virginia state parks, Attorney General Jerry Kilgore said.

Del. Richard H. Black, R-Loudoun County, had asked Kilgore for an opinion on the validity of state regulations that prohibit guns in Virginia's 34 state parks, except in a few areas where hunting is allowed.

"A person's privilege to carry a concealed handgun is considered universal within the Commonwealth subject to limited circumstances," Kilgore said in a letter to Black dated Monday.

He noted that the General Assembly has prohibited concealed handguns in churches, courthouses, schools and bars _ but not state parks. Also, state law does not authorize the conservation department to prohibit the carrying of a concealed handgun by a valid permit holder, Kilgore wrote.

"It is solely within the discretion of the General Assembly to add parks to the list of places where the carrying of concealed handguns is prohibited, or to grant explicit statutory authorization to the Department for that purpose," he wrote.

The National Rifle Association praised Kilgore's opinion.

"Many permit holders carry guns to protect themselves and their loved ones," NRA chief lobbyist Chris Cox said. "No one is less immune to criminal attack just because they're on state property, whether it is a state park or a rest stop."

Jim Meisner, spokesman for the conservation department, said Kilgore's opinion is merely advisory and the regulation remains on the books. He said the regulation has existed for at least 20 years.

"As of today, nothing has changed," Meisner said Wednesday. "The director of the department, the secretary of natural resources and the governor's office are all reviewing the opinion."

Gov. Mark R. Warner's chief lawyer is examining the opinion and has not yet discussed it with the governor, Warner spokeswoman Ellen Qualls said.

Black said he is prepared to introduce legislation overriding the regulation if necessary.

"However, I would hope Governor Warner would want his departments to act in a lawful fashion," Black said. "They should rescind the regulation without legislative action."

The department also could propose legislation adding state parks to the list of facilities where concealed handguns are banned. Such a bill would be "one of the most absurd violations of the Second Amendment I've heard of," Black said.

"The idea that permit holders can't go out into a remote parklands and defend themselves is beyond the pale," he said.

http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/vaapwire/MGBF5QUNZ5D.html
6 posted on 09/11/2002 7:15:40 PM PDT by Ligeia
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To: pabianice
, I am aghast at not previously having heard of this epidemic of state park gun killings...

I missed hearing about that epidemic myself. But, I do remember when a few years ago some homocidal maniac was killing unarmed hikers on the gun-free Appalachian Trail. I don't think he was ever caught, maybe he's hiding out in a VA state park?

Wasn't it out in Oregon where a serial killer was recently killing women joggers in some kind of park? I guess it would have been too risky to the public safety to have allowed those ladies to carry a .38 in their jogging outfit. Yeah, much better to let a few women get sliced and diced than to risk them shooting somebody, LIKE THE SERIAL KILLER FOR INSTANCE. MMM'ers would say so.

7 posted on 09/11/2002 7:43:58 PM PDT by epow
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