VAN DAM MURDER VERDICT [VERDICT IN: GUILTY!]

ABC radio

[wallcrawlr]

I just heard this at noon.

[Slip18]

It usually takes a long time for a death penalty case to get to trial because of the enormous amount of discovery involved.

OJ had the Dream Team.

Perhaps that will be the reason for the appeal, even though there's always an appeal in these types of cases.

[Bush2000]

Software engineer David Westerfield - Another Gateway customer. Why are these perverts always Windows users? I'm going to compile some statistics to determine if there is a pattern among child molesting killers that correlates to their product choices.

Simple statistics, Hal. There are more of them using Windows. Perhaps you cut school on the day that they were teaching about statistics.

Also, if you have that much time on your hands, you need a new hobby.

[FresnoDA]

SLUTJACKALS...so true, so true....

[Steve0113]

Have you ever served on a jury?

Yes, I have, on a perjury case.

[Defiant]

I second that, Kim! Hope our friends are all ok today. May they recover, and gain the ability to apply common sense and rational thinking in their future endeavors.

[Hemingway's Ghost]

Swinging in your own home, with your kids in the house puts your kids at risk. Is this even in dispute?

Depends---there are a whole bunch of variables involved. One would think if a couple knew another couple well enough to have sex with them, they'd know them well enough to know whether or not they'd abduct and murder a child.

But if a couple indiscriminately picks up a derelict off the street to bang, that's a different ball of wax. No?

[joyce11111]

Well...Danielle recieved justice today.

And Westerfield recieved his justice by the guilty verdict.

[marajade]

"IIRC, the right to a speedy trial is routinely waived, to allow both sides to prepare. In this case, the defense declined to waive that right."

Even though I wasn't following that closely I did remember this little fact... I must of been following enough to come to the same conclusion with the jury...

[Freedom2specul8]

"To all you people eager togive him the 'needle'You better ALWAYS have a rolled up hose, never drink in an adult bar,go away for a weekend trip, andoh yes, NO ONE ON FR EVER looks at porn//puhleeze"


You forgot SO MUCH..and a disclaimer... I believe in BEING FAITHFUL to spouses. COMPLETELY.


Never NEVER hang out at bars with girlfiends on weekends
NEVER have consensual extra-marital affiars
never ever smoke a joint, and remember feldman is a member of http://www.norml.org/
NEVER call barhoppers friends
NEVER admit under oath you smoked a joint
NEVER buy pizza and heat it up later
NEVER trust LAW ENFORCEMENT LEAKS
STOP LISTENING TO rick roberts
never trust child porn collectors
never trust your instincts

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and remember all the theories that others have claimed..about this case

Barbara the lesbo tried to rape danielle, mistaking her from damon or something, suffocated her and the parents helped cover it up

Incest by dad and mom didn't know it

Danielle was shared with swinger friends

danielle was molested ...and clearly had budding breasts which could be an indicator of molestation. Danielle had vaginal discharge. Sometimes an indication of molestation for a girl her age. See for example: http://www.utoronto.ca/kids/vulvag.htm

The date fell on an occult date--maybe she was sacrificed

Danielle's necklace is like a bondage necklace..these parents are sick.

Danielle snuck out cuz strangers were fondling her while she was in bed and she tried to run way. She was caught by the mom who was so angry.. they had their way..killed and dumped danielle and now mom and dad are basking in the limelight.

Danielle snuck out cuz strangers were fondling her while she was in bed and she tried to run way..dw saw her on the street, snatched her and had his way with her

The son did it and the dad is covering up

All of the major players are involved in swinging and know each other very very well. When things got too out of hand, danielle died.so they set up a neighbor and planted child porn in his office.

Speculation based on when DW said his garage door was not locked when he came back to the house Sat. afternoon. It was usual for it to be locked. At first I thought speculation like this was really far out - now I'm not so sure. Say DW had some similar blue towels that he used for various stuff like out at the pool, camping, drying his car, whatever. Maybe he leaves some of these in the laundry room adjacent to the garage for easy access - or maybe they were still in the dryer or something - anyway - somebody could have gotten in there and took one. Far fetched maybe - but I also can't help thinking of Damon's little newsgroup post regarding how to "Get back" (or something to that effect) at a person who steals your bike is to put a business card or some such ID into the seat post tube thingy - and he wasn't too nice about his choice of words as I recall. Damon has a devious mind - I think - and I know truth is sometimes stranger than fiction. All I'm saying is that I don't discount this kind of speculation as much as I used to.

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(/SARCASM OFF)

[marajade]

As a former juror on a child sexual molestation case I can assure you as a juror you discount evidence that doesn't seem to fit with the conclusion that the weight of evidence comes too... If you don't do that a juror, you aren't doing what you are sworn to do...

[homeschool mama]

Found it myself, Judy. Thanks. :o)

[JudyB1938]

Hi Fres. I'm so sick at heart.

[FresnoDA]

Now you keep the act up Van Damnit...

We are nearly home free.....hee hee!!!!

[homeschool mama]

I disagree.

[marajade]

If Danielle was in his house while she was alive, why didn't Westfield present testimony to that fact? He didn't because he couldn't.

[homeschool mama]

irregardless is not a word.

[Steve0113]

Gosh, I'm crushed.

[FreeTheHostages]

"IIRC, the right to a speedy trial is routinely waived, to allow both sides to prepare. In this case, the defense declined to waive that right."

You quotes this stuff from Steve and responded to it. But I think the interesting question is: Steve sure knows a lot about the criminal justice system. Like a media person or a criminal defense lawyer would. And he keeps misrepresenting and denying facts, like a criminal defense lawyer would. I'm getting a point of view on his profession, frankly. I think he's from somewhere inside the system.

[homeschool mama]

bump

[bvw]

Now that the public's crys for a sacrifice are fulfilled -- for these three verdicts fulfilled that blood lust, as image is all important to the blood-lusty marchers to the media's great sacrificial altar -- now slacked, some -- such as you, I expect -- will over the days and months come to discontents and regrets as to the wisdom of this verdict and the fairness of this trial.

Let it be so!