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Lesbian mother and teens reach agreement over lifestyle (!Update to earlier story!)
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Posted on 08/20/2002 10:34:54 AM PDT by chance33_98


Lesbian mother and teens reach agreement over lifestyle

Kimla Green says she's willing to put aside her homosexuality in order to have her two girls come home. By Chris Adams ABC13 Eyewitness News (8/19/02) — It's a very private family drama that is now being played out in a very public way in court, with daughters against their mother.

This is a family torn apart by conflicts over homosexuality, the role of religion and the struggle to balance some very difficult facts of life.

Kimla Green walked into a family law courtroom Monday with one simple goal.

"I just want my kids back home right now," said teen girls' mother, Kimla Green.

Green acknowledges that she is sexually attracted to women and that she has brought women to the home she once shared with her two daughters, ages 16 and 17.

The family was before a judge Monday because the two teens asked the court to declare them independent because they object to their mother's gay lifestyle.

For now the girls are with their aunt. Their mother says it didn't have to come to this.

But the girl's attorney, John Breeze said, "Well, obviously there's always two sides to every story."

A Harris County judge transferred to the case Fort Bend County. But in the interim, the two sides appear to have struck a deal.

"We're hoping to have the court read our agreement or hear our agreement and say that it is in the best interest of the children and that will hopefully be the judgment," said the mother's attorney, Lee Jeronimo.

Green says the two girls have been unduly influenced and interfered with by the church they've been attending.

The new deal makes both Green and her daughters give up something.

"Well, my agreement is not to show any type of homosexual lifestyle in front of my kids or to do anything that makes them feel uncomfortable concerning the gay lifestyle. I agree to that as long as they agree not attend the Body of Christ Ministry because of all the brainwashing going on," said Green.

The agreement would reunite the family. It still needs to be approved by a Fort Bend County judge. Everyone's expected back in court there later this month.

The Body of Christ Ministry declined to comment about the case.


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To: AppyPappy
Well Pappy, we're discussing the content of the posted article (it's what we do here in FR), and that's what the article syas that he said. Not only that, but one other article says that he said that.

Now, if you have insight into the pastor's exact comment, please post it and refute the article.

Otherwise, I see no reason NOT to believe two independent sources reporting what he said.

41 posted on 08/20/2002 12:25:44 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I will have insight if someone will post it. How can I have insight into something we have never seen?
42 posted on 08/20/2002 12:26:40 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: chance33_98
Well, homosexuality is right alongside slander and cheating in the bible when it comes down to sins. Do you think the pastor tells the children of the old church gossip that they will be going to hell too?
43 posted on 08/20/2002 12:27:05 PM PDT by Born in a Rage
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To: Luis Gonzalez
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through Him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on Him is not condemned: but he that believeth NOT is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

In short, your unbelief sends you to hell, not your sins.

44 posted on 08/20/2002 12:29:15 PM PDT by Sangamon Kid
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To: Luis Gonzalez
But also in the New Testament we are taught not to associate ourselves with those that sin. Even in the early churches, members are commanded to remove those that are not following the teachings of Christ. Still love them yes, pray for them yes, but do not associate or have dealings with them
45 posted on 08/20/2002 12:31:02 PM PDT by billbears
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To: tangerine
You left Deuteronomy & Leviticus off that list:

Anyone who dreams or prophesizes anything that is against God, or anyone who tries to turn you from God, is to be put to death. (Deuteronomy 13:5)

If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God, kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

If you find out a city worships a different god, destroy the city and kill all of it's inhabitants... even the animals. (Deuteronomy 13:12-15)

Kill anyone with a different religion. (Deuteronomy 17:2-7

Leviticus 20:13: If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Don't let cattle graze with other kinds of Cattle (Leviticus 19:19)

Don't have a variety of crops on the same field. (Leviticus 19:19)

Don't wear clothes made of more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19)

Don't cut your hair nor shave. (Leviticus 19:27)

Any person who curseth his mother or father, must be killed. (Leviticus 20:9) Have you ever done that?

If a man cheats on his wife, or vise versa, both the man and the woman must die. (Leviticus 20:10). I wonder if Dr. Laura would like that one to be enforced?

If a man sleeps with his father's wife... both him and his father's wife is to be put to death. (Leviticus 20:11)

If a man sleeps with his wife and her mother they are all to be burnt to death. (Leviticus 20:14)

If a man or woman has sex with an animal, both human and animal must be killed. (Leviticus 20:15-16). I guess you should kill the animal since they were willing participants. Are they crazy?

If a man has sex with a woman on her period, they are both to be "cut off from their people" (Leviticus 20:18)

Psychics, wizards, and so on are to be stoned to death. (Leviticus 20:27)

If a priest's daughter is a whore, she is to be burnt at the stake. (Leviticus 21:9)

People who have flat noses, or is blind or lame, cannot go to an altar of God (Leviticus 21:17-18)

Anyone who curses or blasphemes God, should be stoned to death by the community. (Leviticus 24:14-16)

Don't let cattle graze with other kinds of Cattle (Leviticus 19:19)


"The most detestable wickedness, the most horrid cruelties, and the greatest miseries that have afflicted the human race have had their origin in this thing called revelation, or revealed religion. It has been the most destructive to the peace of man since man began to exist. Among the most detestable villains in history, you could not find one worse than Moses, who gave an order to butcher the boys, to massacre the mothers and then rape the daughters. One of the most horrible atrocities found in the literature of any nation. I would not dishonor my Creator's name by attaching it to this filthy book."
--Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason
46 posted on 08/20/2002 12:31:26 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative
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To: BibChr
KJV

6:9
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

6:10
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Looks like being gay is along the same lines as being a drunk....hmmmm

47 posted on 08/20/2002 12:32:59 PM PDT by Born in a Rage
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To: Green Knight
The agreement was made that the girls couldn't attend that particular church, but I didn't see where they would be stopped from attending another one! ;-)
48 posted on 08/20/2002 12:35:46 PM PDT by spokanite
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To: billbears
we are taught not to associate ourselves with those that sin

Quick, somebody let Jesus know....btw, we are all sinners. Knowing that Jesus has died for us/our sins is all one needs to know. Ask for mercy and be humble before the Lord and He will save you...all of us.

49 posted on 08/20/2002 12:36:30 PM PDT by Born in a Rage
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To: AppyPappy
"How can I have insight into something we have never seen?"

Did you SEE Monica do Bill?

50 posted on 08/20/2002 12:36:58 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I didn't need to. She testified as to EXACTLY what happened.

What did the preacher say EXACTLY?

51 posted on 08/20/2002 12:38:07 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Well, that should thin out the population a bit.
52 posted on 08/20/2002 12:39:26 PM PDT by tangerine
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Ha!

Reminds me of Billy Graham's sermon on the wind and faith.

53 posted on 08/20/2002 12:41:45 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative
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To: Born in a Rage
1 Corinthians 5
11 But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.
12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
13 God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you."

Quick!! Get rid of the parts of the Bible that don't make us 'compassionate' conservatives!! Yes, we continue to pray for those that are lost, but we are not supposed to associate with them let alone worship with them. BTW, do you think sexual immorality covers homosexuality?

54 posted on 08/20/2002 12:42:21 PM PDT by billbears
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To: Born in a Rage
Yep; but that wasn't the subject, was it?

Dan

55 posted on 08/20/2002 12:43:07 PM PDT by BibChr
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Powder..Patch..Ball FIRE!

I stand corrected.. I hadn't seen that in the original post

56 posted on 08/20/2002 12:44:17 PM PDT by BallandPowder
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To: Severa
I see what looks like an awful lot of animosity toward homosexuals here on FR.

What a judgmental statement.

57 posted on 08/20/2002 12:48:23 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: chance33_98
I have a feeling that the girls will reject this offer. It isn't about rejecting homosexuality, but the ability for them to practice their chosen religion. If they return home- no church. If they continue the suit, they can be declared independent and do as they wish. Girls, continue the suit.
58 posted on 08/20/2002 12:49:07 PM PDT by rintense
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Love trumps, and forgiveness.

Those who don't know they are in sin won't seek forgiveness of their sins. Love does not declare that evil is good. Sin is sin. The scriptures say that an open rebuke is better than silent love. That rebuke leads the sinner to repentance. Your version of liberal love leads the sinner to more sin.

59 posted on 08/20/2002 12:52:56 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: billbears
Quick!! Get rid of the parts of the Bible that don't make us 'compassionate' conservatives!! Yes, we continue to pray for those that are lost, but we are not supposed to associate with them let alone worship with them. BTW, do you think sexual immorality covers homosexuality?

Please, please do not take anything that I am saying as being a "compassionate conservative"....Bush is huge disappointment to me.

What makes you think that you know all of the sexual exploits of the people in your church? If you did, perhaps you would have to worship all alone.

60 posted on 08/20/2002 12:53:22 PM PDT by Born in a Rage
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