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To: bvw
If one fails to recognize an honest general weakness for the sake of political correctness one will fail in the cure.

Oh, come on - so what you're saying is that opposition of any criticism of black America is rooted in political correctness? I think not.

There is no empirical evidence that suggests that urban blacks are any more - or less - susceptable to the moral problems that pervade the cities than urban whites. To suggest otherwise is to buy into the stereotypical notion that only blacks are involved in what's "wrong" within urban America.

I'm not saying that there isn't a problem within urban black culture; in many instances there is. But at the same time, to use the broad brush that indicates that "all of those people" - referring to all city-dwelling blacks - are tainted by the well is irresponsible and short-sighted.

Take a look at the true demographics of single-parent households. While the percentages for blacks are much higher today than they were during the Moynahan study a generation ago, they are also just as significantly higher among urban whites; perhaps even moreso than urban blacks.

There are no greater enemies of blacks in America then the many amoral numbers in the music biz pushing out the gansta trash and groups such as planned parenthood and other proponents of libertine sexulaity and free-sex. I can only hope that those enemies have pushed their trash too hard and so that a strong moral counter-force is developing.

You'll get no argument from me regarding the negative influence of "gangsta rap" subculture that exists in urban America. But at the same time, you must look at the larger picture of urban America; especially the large portions of urban America that do not fall within the stereotypical "gangsta rap" culture that you rail against.

The whitewashing of this problem is one that will result in the problems continuing as people argue over several things: *What the true measure of the problem is; *What the cause of that problem is; *And how to solve that problem.

I insist that ad hominum comments like those put forth before here do nothing to serve any of those three points. Let's get past them and move forward. The vast majority of us (urban American blacks and whites) want to do so.

129 posted on 08/20/2002 10:19:56 AM PDT by mhking
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To: mhking
"Oh, come on - so what you're saying is that opposition of any criticism of black America is rooted in political correctness? I think not." -- I don't understand this comment, can you elaborate?

"There is no empirical evidence that suggests that urban blacks are any more - or less - susceptable to the moral problems that pervade the cities than urban whites." -- Oh jeesh man, sure there is now. Speak to what is obvious to anyone who visits an urban white trash area versus a urban black trash area, both have their numbers of illegitmate children, but among the blacks it is higher. What accounts for that significant difference? I think it is a combination of social and racial factors. It's a problem for both, but hits blacks harder, just as some other diseases hit blacks harder than whites. To deny it is to miss what correction will be effective.

I used the word trash to descirbe the neighborhood conditions and not the persons in it, for every person is valuable beyond measure.

130 posted on 08/20/2002 10:38:49 AM PDT by bvw
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