Young says McKinney campaign 'fudged' taped endorsement (she lied!!)

Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 8.19.02 | BILL TORPY

[FryingPan101]

I'm sure it was just a little goof up. Can we just move along.

[TC Rider]

Is it just me, or are we seeing a whole slew of anti-McKinney articles from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution? I'm not from Atlanta, but isn't this paper normally disgustingly liberal? What's happening down there?

My guess is that AJC figures any Dem is better than a maginalized McKinney.

[TexasNative2000]

"In a democracy, the worst thing we can have is no controversy."

No, Andy - the worst thing we can have in a democracy is stupid, uninformed, apathetic voters.

[SJackson]

Barbara Lee (D-CA) represents Berkeley anyways so I suspect she will be in until the sun goes nova. But still, I would like to see the GOP put the same effort into defeating a Democrat who doesn't cause the Democrat party trouble as it puts into defeating McKinney. And I don't like accepting a Democrat either. It is a loser attitude. Go for winning the seat. Force Jewish Democrats to decide between a Republican and a Democrat, not between two Democrats. We hear the Jewish vote is moving to the GOP. Let them prove it. Duh again. The Republican’s are are after your babe? You were just complaining the Jews were doing it, to purge blacks. Think 2002 will be known as the AIPAC election. Millions are being spent purging black Democrats and some cash is being thrown around to mess up the GOP in selected races. Change your mind did ya? Different day, different thread, different opinion. And no, AIPAC won’t support the Republican in the general election, neither will the Republican party, but you know that too, don’t you? A primary win for Jihad Cindy is the key. Poor Cindy No need to respond, you’ve explained you don’t talk to Jewish Freepers. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yikes! Flee Cindy! Flee! The Long Knives are out! Bill Kristollnacht has arrived! Voegelin

[SJackson]

That kdoxxx looks like a particularly nasty critter. Training at a particularly nasty place, just what you'd expect to find.

[Catspaw]

Actually, McKinney does care what Mugabe does, and so does her good buddy, Louis Farrakhan. In fact, she took to the floor of the House to give a speech on Mugabe, calling Zimbabwe "Africa's second-longest stable democracy." You know this because I've posted this to you before. Why do you continually lie about McKinney? Is it your love for Farrakhan and Jihad Cindy or because both McKinney and Farrakhan are antisemitic?

ZIMBABWE DEMOCRACY AND ECONOMIC RECOVERY ACT
OF 2001

 

(Extensions of Remarks - December 05, 2001)

SPEECH OF HON.
CYNTHIA A. McKINNEY OF GEORGIA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Tuesday, December 4, 2001

* Ms. McKINNEY. Mr. Speaker, at the international Relations Committee meeting of November 28, 2001, which considered the Zimbabwe Democracy and Economic Recovery Act of 2001, I asked a question of my colleagues who were vociferously supporting this misdirected piece of legislation: ``Can anyone explain how the people in question who now have the land in question in Zimbabwe got title to the land?''

* My query was met with a deafening silence. Those who knew did not want to admit the truth and those who didn't know should have known--that the land was stolen from its indigenous peoples through the British South Africa Company and any ``titles'' to it were illegal and invalid. Whatever the reason for their silence, the answer to this question is the unspoken but real reason for why the United States Congress is now concentrating its time and resources on squeezing an economically-devastated African state under the hypocritical guise of providing a ``transition to democracy.''

* Zimbabwe is Africa's second-longest stable democracy. It is multi-party. It had elections last year where the opposition, Movement for Democratic Change, won over 50 seats in the parliament. It has an opposition press which vigorously criticizes the government and governing party. It has an independent judiciary which issues decisions contrary to the wishes of the governing party. Zimbabwe is not without troubles, but neither is the United States. I have not heard anyone proposing a United States Democracy Act following last year's Presidential electoral debacle. And if a foreign country were to pass legislation calling for a United States Democracy Act which provided funding for United States opposition parties under the fig leaf of ``Voter Education,'' this body and this country would not stand for it.

* There are many de jure and de facto one-party states in the world which are the recipients of support of the United States government. They are not the subject of Congressional legislative sanctions. To any honest observer, Zimbabwe's sin is that it has taken the position to right a wrong, whose resolution has been too long overdue--to return its land to its people. The Zimbabwean government has said that a situation where 2 percent of the population owns 85 percent of the best land is untenable. Those who presently own more than one farm will no longer be able to do so.

* When we get right down to it, this legislation is nothing more than a formal declaration of United States complicity in a program to maintain white-skin privilege. We can call it an ``incentives'' bill, but that does not change its essential ``sanctions'' nature. It is racist and against the interests of the masses of Zimbabweans. In the long-run the Zimbabwe Democracy Act will work against the United States having a mutually beneficial relationship with Africa.

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[Saundra Duffy]

Bye bye, Cynthia, you kook!

[mhking]

Where do you see the "progressives" moving to? Not everyone will give up on McKinney, Hilliard, LaTosha Brown and others. Will they go Green or sit out elections?

I insist that "mainstream" black America is waiting for a well-reasoned message and a reason to step away from the fringe. Majette provides that at this juncture. It is definitely a step back from the abyss of anarchy (which is what Jihad Cynthia would love), and back toward the middle. It is also a step toward the notion of blacks in DeKalb possibly voting for a Republican candidate down the road somehow.

The progressives (or if you call them what they actually are, lunatics) will always vote on the fringe. Whether that means voting Green or fringe Democrat makes no difference to them. Anyone who is tied to the establishment (and that includes a moderate or mainstream Democrat as well as just about ANY Republican) is anathema to them, period.

[Cachelot]

That kdoxxx looks like a particularly nasty critter. Training at a particularly nasty place, just what you'd expect to find.

Yes. Let's see if he, too, goes into "protected" status.

[mhking]

And again, I've got to re-emphasize that Andy Young has not established a position one way or the other on Mugabe. Contrary to what you posted, Young has purposefully stayed on the sidelines with that one.

Say what you will about Young, but he is a pretty shrewd politician. He knows when to pitch in, and when to shut up. For now, with that being a potential hot potato, he's keeping his mouth shut.

McKinney, on the other hand, is on the record as supporting Mugabe. Farrakhan is not only on the record, but called for support for Mugabe at this weekend's "reparations rally" in Washington (and yes, it was on C-Span).

[veronica]

What IS it you love so much about McKinney and Hilliard Mr. Lied? Their Jew-baiting??? Their cozying up to terrorist supporters?? Both?

[aristeides]

Yes, I heard with my own ears (on C-SPAN) Farrakhan express support for Mugabe's land seizure.

[Brookhaven]

Is it just me, or are we seeing a whole slew of anti-McKinney articles from the Atlanta Journal- Constitution? I'm not from Atlanta, but isn't this paper normally disgustingly liberal? What's happening down there?

The AJC is a disgustingly DEOCRATIC paper. It's pretty clear that the Democratic power structure in the state has decided McKinney has to go. Here's why.

• She got Zell Miller mad at her. Former Governor and Current Senator, the most powerful Dem in the state. Zell has let it be known she has got to go.
• She has gotten Maynard Jackson mad at her. Jackson (who is the defacto head of the black/liberal wing of the GA Dem party) is the only Dem in the state that rivals Zell for power. The silence from Jackson has been deafening. McKinney no longer does the one thing the Jackson camp demands: bring home the bacon. If she can't do it (and she can't) then they are going to get someone in there who can.

[SJackson]

w, if FreeRepublic would live up to what it purports aboutantisemitism is not tolerated here"'d have no beef. As it is, FreeRepublic isn't only tolerating antisemitism but encouraging it, by placing LarryLied/Voegelin under "special protection".

Where did you see that in the guidelines? I don’t see anything about anti-Semitic content. I think as long as you “make it up” youself and don’t paste from a hate site it’s OK. Remember even the UN doesn’t equate anti-Semitism with racism.

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[Cachelot]

Where did you see that in the guidelines?

Actually, I don't think it is in the guidelines.It has just been stated - extremely forcefully - by the administration. I can dig it up, I suppose, if I have to.

[Catspaw]

That wasn't the first time Farrakhan expressed his support for Mugabe. On his recent trip, he went to Zimbabwe to visit Mugabe:

The Hon. Minister Louis Farrakhan offers a Peace Mission Report
America’s enemy is injustice
Click here for complete audio webcast (windows media)

 
(FinalCall.com) - The following is an edited transcript of the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan’s report on his recent Peace Mission to Africa and the Middle East, delivered July 22, 2002 at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C.)

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Our trip also took us to Zimbabwe where the historical injustice of the land question has to be resolved, hopefully amicably. The way the media in America and Great Britain and Europe have written and shown President Mugabe, they showed him as an undemocratic, wicked man who is now taking land from the White owners. I think if we really want peace, we have to structure peace on the basis of justice. And we cannot have justice except on the basis of truth. And the truth must not be hidden to vilify one or the other. Truth must be told. The land was taken from its original owners by force.

Under Joshua Nkomo and Robert Mugabe, men, women and children fought a war of liberation. They didn’t fight a war of liberation just to have a flag and a national anthem and a seat in the United Nations. They fought to liberate the land so that the resources of that land would accrue to its natural and original owners. Unfortunately, just as they were about to capture the whole country, negotiations began with Great Britain. And for three months at Lancaster House in the United Kingdom, they argued over the land question: What to do with the land settled on by Whites that originally belonged to Blacks?

The British wanted Zimbabweans to buy the land back from somebody who never used a dollar to get it. That was an insult. So they founded a constitution and the land question in that constitution was, that the land would be bought back but the people of Zimbabwe had no money to pay for the land. So under the administration of Margaret Thatcher and Jimmy Carter, there was an agreement, not written but verbal, that they would help to buy the land back from the British settlers. Well, that went along pretty good for a while. Then Margaret Thatcher had no more to give. President Carter was only in office for four years then Ronald Reagan for eight. And all during that time money was given to buy back land and it was proceeding, but slowly.

So the Zimbabweans changed an aspect of the constitution, which at first said that if the White settlers wanted to sell the land, the land could be bought. But if they refused to sell, you could not force them to sell. But after 10 years of that, the constitution (was changed to say) the land would be bought in the national interest. Now after 20 years, Robert Mugabe, when he was fighting for the land, we saw old newspaper articles that depicted him as a terrorist. And all the man was doing was fighting to liberate his land. He allowed Ian Smith, who was brutal in his suppression of Black people after independence, to still live there on a large tract of land. He still lives there. And as long as the Whites’ ownership of land was undisturbed, Mugabe was a gentleman. From a terrorist, he became a gentleman.

But after 20 years, some of the soldiers that fought with him felt betrayed and that’s when they settled on the land to say that the revolution is not complete until the land is back in the ownership of the original owners. Now, Mugabe had two things to do. He could either fight them and throw them off the land or recognize the rightness of them and the slowness of justice coming. When Mugabe took the latter position that the soldiers were right, the revolution was not completed, 4,500 Whites owned 12 million hectares of land and a hectare is 2.7 acres. When you have 4,500 Whites owning 12 million hectares of arable land and millions of Blacks living huddled together with no real economic substance, that is an injustice that must be rectified.

Great Britain has no desire to give anymore money. Under the administration of the elder Bush, they gave money for awhile and then they watched the way Zimbabwe was voting (in the United Nations). Since Zimbabwe seemed to be voting more on the side of the Soviet Union than the United States, President Bush, the elder, decided to give no more money to settle the land issue. So the land question then gets bogged down until that man who was a soldier stood on that land and said we are claiming this. This is what we fought for.

Instead of Britain and America recognizing that it was a little more than $2 billion it would take to buy back all the land, what is better—$2 billion or extended war? Nothing is going to stop Black people in Africa from wanting what belongs to them. And it is wiser for the Whites who live there well to want to share the resources. The Zimbabweans don’t want to just kick the Whites altogether out but they cannot live as they are living anymore. One man owns 40 percent of the wealth of South Africa and that same man owns 130,000 hectares in Zimbabwe, the size of Belgium, and doesn’t want to give anything back to the indigenous people. Well, what will that eventually cause?

To the Whites of Europe and America, I am pleading with you to think with wisdom. Justice is not what you are being offered. You are being offered mercy. If you reject mercy, then justice comes. And what is justice? The Prophet Obadiah said, “As thou hast done so shall it be done unto you.” That’s not what you want. You have given something to Africa so why not accept a merciful solution that allows you something but does not deprive the indigenous people of what belongs to them, what they rightfully deserve.

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[cake_crumb]

"Why do you continually lie about McKinney? Is it your love for Farrakhan and Jihad Cindy or because both McKinney and Farrakhan are antisemitic?"

No need to ask you if that was a rhetorical question.

[Vinomori]

I don't think you should ever let the fudge slide.

[txrangerette]

Just wondering...have ANY prominent
Blacks OPENLY OPPOSED Cindy? Why is
Young "neutral"...big hairy deal!!?
Will not even one of them go with
Majette? Are they afraid? Of what?
This is scary, if they can't even
support a black, liberal, fem Dem!!

[SuzanneC]

Well, I'm relieved that the good Ambassador has corrected the situation. And you know the media is going to play this up. Cynthia gets no passes this go-round.