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August 19, 1934 - Hitler Endorsed by 9 to 1 in Poll on his Dictatorship, but Opposition Is Doubled
NewYork Times ^
| August 19, 1934
| FREDERICK T. BIRCHALL
Posted on 08/18/2002 10:17:45 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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A feature of the election was that former Marxists cast a far heavier vote for Chancellor Hitler than the so-called bourgeoisie
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08/18/2002 10:20:54 PM PDT
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weikel
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...former Communists still are Leader Hitler's most loyal followers...
To: Tropoljac
Don't forget Wall Street!
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To: Tropoljac
The Prussian upper class supported him in desperation for fear of a communist takeover which probably would have happened in days if Hitler wasn't appointed. They wanted a restoration of the monarchy or a right wing military dictatorship( not dictatorship in the totalitarian sense mind you just there would be a dictator who could stop all the strikes, inflation, etc) but the communist always thwarted attempts to do this by calling a general strike. The upper class needed an anti communist with popular support and Hitler was the only man. Papen and Hindenburg's friends thought he would be controllable and they could rule through him but they were wrong. Hitler did stop a communist revolution but at a price just as bad.
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08/18/2002 10:32:56 PM PDT
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weikel
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To: Tropoljac
The real failing of the German upper class was their failure to get rid of Hitler after the Roehm Putsch when any left wing threat to Germany was over( the communist and union leaders had already been arrested and shot and the Roehm Putsch eliminated the far left within the Nazi party). Hitler had then outlived his usefullness as anti-communist. The military had not yet sworn alliegance to him( most of the officiers viewed such oaths as absolute and unbreakable for any reason so after the Fuhrer oath had been administered the prospect of him being overthrown by the army became impossible) and by 1935 with the Nuremberg laws it was fairly clear he was a dangerous man. They should have moved against him then and restored the Holhenzollrens IMHO.
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08/18/2002 10:51:50 PM PDT
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weikel
To: swarthyguy
http://www.humanitas-international.org/showcase/chronography/documents/htestmnt.htm
MY POLITICAL TESTAMENT
ADOLF HITLER, Berlin, April 29, 1945
...It is untrue that I or anybody else in Germany wanted war in 1939. It was desired and instigated exclusively by those international statesmen who were either of Jewish origin or working for Jewish interests. I have made so many offers for the reduction and elimination of armaments, .... that the responsibility for the outbreak of this war cannot rest on me. ... there will arise anew the hatred for the people who alone are ultimately responsible: International Jewry and its helpers!
>>>Yeah, OK, whatever, Mr. Schiklgruber....
To: swarthyguy
Let's not go overboard. This was Hitler's rigged election. In the free elections, he only managed pluralities (and the communists and socialists scored serious percentages). But the morons running some smaller conservative parties thought they could manipulate him and work with him. So they backed him, giving him a majority. He kindly let them have most of the cabinet posts. All he wanted was the Interior Ministry for Germany (as well as the Interior Ministry for Prussia) which just so happened to be in charge of the police. You can guess what happened then.
Before the rigged elections after he became Chancellor, Hitler's initial support came from two groups - college students (they gave him clearcut majorities years before his successes elsewhere) and the lower middle class, especially small business owners. He was to be their "protector" against big business and labor. Fools.
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08/18/2002 10:54:26 PM PDT
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LenS
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Labor was a threat to everyone at that time. During the Weimar Republic it was totally under the control of the communist. General Strikes were the means the commies used to prevent the old Prussian boys from restoring the Holhenzollrens which would have both protected Europe from communism and avoided WWII and the holocaust.
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08/18/2002 10:58:08 PM PDT
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weikel
To: swarthyguy
"Ex-Marxists Support Hitler
A feature of the election was that former Marxists cast a far heavier vote for Chancellor Hitler than the so-called bourgeoisie. In Berlin especially, judging by their vote, former Communists still are Leader Hitler's most loyal followers. In one voting district in Wedding, where a few years ago Communists fought from behind barricades against the police, the "yes" votes amounted to 949; the "no" votes and invalid ballots totaled 237"
Well whut-du-ya-know
To: swarthyguy
a great historical bump
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08/18/2002 11:23:25 PM PDT
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Cacique
To: swarthyguy
Great post and thread. . .
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08/19/2002 12:51:47 AM PDT
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cricket
To: swarthyguy
Funny how this reporter seems not to recognize how the yes vote in formerly Communist districts was virtually unanimous because, in the first year of Nazi rule, Gestapo attention was primarily directed against the Communists. The vote in the bourgeois districts was still semi-free. Hence the different results.
To: weikel
They should have moved against him then and restored the Holhenzollrens IMHO. One of the main reasons Hitler conducted the Blood Purge was that Hindenburg and the Army were threatening to do precisely that, if Hitler did not move against the SA. Once he did, these conservatives were satisfied, and even the simultaneous murder of fellow right-wing officers like Schleicher did not disturb most of them.
To: aristeides
Hitler was only installed by the old Prussians as a lesser evil then the communist after the Roehm Putsch he had done his job and was simply dangerous. They could have gotten rid of him then and restored the monarchy( a general strike couldn't stop them now as Hitler had already destroyed the unions).
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08/19/2002 7:06:45 AM PDT
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weikel
To: swarthyguy
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