Askel5, you've met me so please don't think I'm flaming or talking down.
Many tactics and/or strategies are value nuetral, meaning that either side can use them without lessoning tha values that they espouse. Even when they are NOT value nuetral, and we would not use them, we need to study them in order to plan an effective countermeasure.
I heard no one at the conference, speaker or attendee, say that we need to use ALL the demonrats tactics or strategies. There are some tactics and strategies, however, that would be suitable for a conservative to use also.
Please don't misunderstand me, I don't agree with some of the tactics used by demonrats but there are some that they use with much greater success, that we COULD use also with just as much success if we only would. Many times, IMO, a conservative will NOT use the very same tactic ONLY because the demonrats use it.
Just because a demonrat uses a particular tactic/strategy does not mean that a conservative cannot use the same tactic/strategy, as long as it is not counter to the integral core belief that is needed by all conservatives.
My comment has more to do with the personal bits of ugliness, deception, character assasination, and attempts to ostracization that caused me to leave the FAB and have so disappointed me on the forum in general.
If your wives don't mind, perhaps you, KC and I could get things rolling early come October with a discussion of whether or not circumstances or intent change the essential nature of an action or idea. I don't believe so.
I think if you're going to claim the high road, you've got to walk it. I believe any victory won in the least bit underhanded fashion ultimately is doomed to be Pyrrhic in n nature.
Maybe it's different for those, like me, who must remain vigilant the rest of their lives against the temptation to succumb once again to certain mindsets and/or tactics essential to the left.
You know how former smokers can be. I guess you could consider me a former smoker of leftist ideology. I would never have described myself as a leftist and I was by no means a Green or a Democrat or a Libertarian. But at heart I did share their disdain for human beings ... knew full well that most humans were long pigs who could be manipulated -- with repetition, slogans, fear, intimidation, terror -- like the base, selfish, passionate animals they were at heart.