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To: anymouse
You jump into a thread and attempt to hijack it to rail on your own pet issue.

Abortion is not some "pet issue". The Right to Life is the foundation for all other God-given rights and I'll be damned if the liberal rightwing is going to give it the shortshrift as part of their keeping the GOP policy of Legal Abortion intact.

I realize -- now that most GOP are comfortable supporting abortion, the GOP Senate even confirming Roe v. Wade during the last election -- the issue had outlived its usefulness as a some "Litmus Test" issue with which to polarize left and right.

I still see no reason whatsoever to engender ill thinking on such a critical issue of human rights by engaging in the conceit that abortion is a "women's issue".

I believe in patriarchy and I know for a fact it's a man's issue and, until the men take charge, we're sunk.

543 posted on 08/21/2002 7:41:39 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: Askel5
I still see no reason whatsoever to engender ill thinking on such a critical issue of human rights by engaging in the conceit that abortion is a "women's issue".

Sweetie,

The discussion was about public speaking and debates and spin IIRC. The specific topic was the 'credibility' of the spokesperson. Someone used the example of AnnaZ cleaning some male's clock at some 2d Amendment debate in the recent past. Another example was when the left put up a woman to debate a conservative man about abortion. The presenter pointed out that the man didn't have a chance in that debate, although some FReepers in the audience mildly challenged that assertion.

I wish you were there. It would have livened up the discussion even though the topic of abortion was used only as example in this instance.

546 posted on 08/21/2002 7:51:50 AM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Askel5
Abortion is not some "pet issue". The Right to Life is the foundation for all other God-given rights and I'll be damned if the liberal rightwing is going to give it the shortshrift as part of their keeping the GOP policy of Legal Abortion intact.

I find it sad that "leaders" of a conservative forum would hammer you for doing the right thing, in staying on message and refusing to give in to avoid controversy.

This surrender to win strategy peculiar the the GOP these days is particularly disturbing in a conservative forum.

I envy your position and stand as an individual. Being part of a targeted group (the DC Chapter) and having to sit on my hands for fear of subjecting them to the retribution and tag team tactics you have endured is an almost unbearable position.

I agree with you that the Right to Life is the foundation for all other God-given rights, and that if as conservatives we negotiate on that we have already lost the battle.

I keep hearing "stay on subject" and "repetition, repetition, repetition.
I'd venture to say there wasn't this much repetition in Jonestown.

Hang in there.

559 posted on 08/21/2002 9:49:11 AM PDT by Gore_ War_ Vet
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