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To: RedWing9
"Now, if we apply those tactics with the logic and morality of Conservatives, we will win, and winning is good."

The main reason I hesitate to draw out this debate is because I wasn't in attendance at the conference. I didn't hear all Matt Lewis had to say that might mitigate his advocating (for lack of a better term) media apartheid w/r/t issues that polarize. But, if you insist: Your explanations only seem to dig a deeper hole. To emulate Carville and Begala for their enthusiasm is fine. Carefully studying them as opponents is necessary. But to say we have something positive in the way of "tactics" to learn from such dissembling Marxist demagogues stretches the bounds of credibility. The only salient tactic that they display was likely learned, as most FReepers have already concluded, by studying Goebbels and Geuring - repeat a lie until it becomes accepted as truth. These men do not serve at the pleasure of a left leaning media because of any ingenious tactics or brilliant insight. They essentially lie for food.

Yes, winning is good. But remember - Bush won in 2000, not Gore. When the rubber hit the road in campaign 2000, Carville was muzzled and Begala was put out to pasture with a nice cushy CNN gig. When whatever debt the DNC thought it owed them was paid - even that disappeared.

I've always found that consultants (i.e. Matt Lewis) can be valuable in prodding us away from the status quo, but we need to take much of their advice witha grain of salt and a boulder of reality.

114 posted on 08/19/2002 12:46:00 PM PDT by Harrison Bergeron
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To: Harrison Bergeron
as most FReepers have already concluded, by studying Goebbels and Geuring - repeat a lie until it becomes accepted as truth.

Here's were I think our disconnect is. I do not intend to emulate the lying, thieving, unmoralistic minds and actions of Carville/Begala/x42. But I intend to use their tactic of repitition of the truth in order to get my point across to the inattentive average Joe. I also will use other tactics of theirs using, instead of their lies, the truth. Is that satisfactory?

See, I'm thinking that you may not be willing to understand and learn from Hitler just because he was a Nazi. Hitler made some brilliant moves, but he also made mistakes that cost him greatly. The left has done the same, and I intend to use what worked for them.

116 posted on 08/19/2002 1:04:11 PM PDT by RedWing9
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To: Harrison Bergeron
...repeat a lie until it becomes accepted as truth.

Can't one also repeat the truth until it becomes accepted as the truth?

No offense, but you are missing the point others have been trying to make. Carville and Begala weren't effective because they were lying, they were effective because of their tactics. The same tactics can be utilized by the right using the truth with similar results.

Allow me a question, what do you think was the tactic employed by Carville and Begala?

122 posted on 08/19/2002 4:51:37 PM PDT by Bob J
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