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Pizza delivery policy sparks racism
St. Petersburg Times ^ | August 18, 2002 | ROBERT FARLEY

Posted on 08/18/2002 5:02:56 PM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29

TARPON SPRINGS -- Most people in the predominantly black Union Academy neighborhood of Tarpon Springs know about the robbery of the Pizza Hut driver in November.

They know because it soon meant they could not get a pizza delivered to their neighborhood after dark.

"I don't think it's fair," said Alicia Porter, a 25-year-old nursing student who lives in Union Academy. "There are bad people everywhere in the world. But they (the pizza companies) shouldn't bar everybody because of it."

It's inconvenient, she said, to have to drive to the store to pick up a pizza. And it's insulting, she said.

"We're black people who like pizza too," she said. "Our money is just like everyone else's."

Pizza Hut isn't the only pizza company that won't deliver to parts of Tarpon Springs due to safety concerns. The owner of the Domino's Pizza in Tarpon Springs said his company stopped delivering after dark to Mango Circle in 1995 after one of his drivers was robbed and severely beaten.

Former City Commissioner Glenn Davis has a different theory about why the pizza companies have chosen not to deliver to some neighborhoods.

"It's racism plain and simple," Davis said.

At a recent City Commission meeting, Davis challenged city leaders to stop doing any business with any pizza companies that won't deliver to certain areas. He also recommended the commissioners suspend the companies' right to do business in the city.

Mayor Frank DiDonato said he's not sure that's something the city can legally do, but he intends to write the pizza companies to request they meet with city officials to justify their policy.

"I don't think it's right people are being denied service because of where they live," DiDonato said.

Commissioner David Archie, a resident of Union Academy, said the pizza companies' policies unfairly stigmatize the neighborhood.

It is a controversy that has played out in communities all over the country, including several in Tampa Bay. It's even one that Tarpon Springs took on six years ago, Archie said. Then, he said, it was resolved when Pizza Hut agreed to reopen its delivery area.

Julie Hildebrand, a spokeswoman for the Dallas-based company, said Pizza Hut decided to stop nighttime deliveries to parts of Union Academy after the November robbery. In that incident, three teenagers stole $100 from a delivery man and hit him over the head. One of the three teens, who was holding a .38-caliber revolver, fired one shot. It appeared the gun was not aimed at the delivery man, who was not hit. Police arrested all three teens. Christopher Alexander Blanche, 18, the only adult, recently pleaded guilty to robbery and awaits sentencing.

In addition to that incident, Hildebrand said, drivers said they have been repeatedly harassed in the Union Academy area. As a result, the company decided not to deliver after dark to an area bounded by Martin Luther King Boulevard on the south, Lemon Street on the north, Pinellas Avenue on the west and S Disston Avenue on the east.

"We don't want to tighten our delivery area," she said, "but we have to consider the safety of our drivers. People need to feel safe in their job and that's up to us."

The policy has nothing to do with race, she said, noting that the company delivers everywhere during daylight hours. And after dark, people in the restricted delivery area are offered discounts if they pick up their orders at the store.

Archie said the boundaries Pizza Hut has drawn don't make any sense. The robbery occurred south of Martin Luther King Boulevard on Harrison Street. That's outside the area Hildebrand described.

"I can't see what they're basing their boundaries on, except from a race standpoint," he said.

Several churches in the neighborhood can't even get deliveries at night, he said.

"Something's wrong with that picture," he said.

Archie also thinks the company shouldn't blackball an entire neighborhood based on one ugly incident.

"That one incident means everyone else in the whole community is stigmatized as a robber," Archie said.

The robbery was committed by three teens, he said, and was uniformly condemned by the community.

"That's not to say that wasn't a serious incident, or that I don't value the safety of employees," Archie said. "But you also have to look at people's rights. I don't want to see any part of our community discriminated against. A lot of this is based on a perception that is not fair."

John Paulette, owner of the Tarpon Springs Domino's, said he has long been a proponent for opening up previously closed areas for delivery, often over the objections of his delivery people. Sometimes drivers don't like to go to poor areas where customers often don't tip as well, he said.

"I don't believe in that," said Paulette, 36. "I believe everyone is equal."

So when he bought the Tarpon Springs shop in 1995, he said, he reopened deliveries to Mango Circle, a residential area with just one way in and one way out.

Two weeks later, he said, a 62-year-old driver was severely beaten and robbed during a delivery on that street. The thieves took $20, beat him over the head with a stick and broke his nose and jaw, among other things. The robbers also stole his 89-year-old mother's rosary beads, Paulette said.

The man ended up on permanent disability, and the company is still paying for a $250,000 workers compensation settlement, he said.

"He got beaten up really bad and I felt really bad about it," Paulette said.

He quickly reinstituted the no-deliveries after dark rule for Mango Circle.

"It's the only place I don't serve after dark," he said.

It was a safety issue, period, he said. But his workers probably would have quit had he not done it, he said.

Still, he said, if the neighborhood has changed -- and Mayor DiDonato and Commissioner Archie say it has -- he'd be willing to sit down with residents and talk about opening that area back up.

But, he said, the safety of his drivers comes first.

"I tell my people, I don't care what neighborhood you go to, if you don't feel comfortable, don't go in," Paulette said.

Sometimes, customers are asked to turn lights on. If there's another driver available, he said, sometimes they'll send two people.

Davis, 48, said the pizza companies need to provide better justification for their policy, like crime statistics.

"If they can show me the facts, that it's a reoccuring thing, I'll shut up," Davis said. "No one should have to put their life on the line to deliver a pizza."

But if the policy is based on isolated incidents, that's not fair, he said.

"You've got thugs in every ethnic group," he said.

"The majority of people in the community are law abiding," he said. But because of the "stupidity" of a few teens, "everybody's being punished for it."

According to crime statistics provided by the Tarpon Springs Police Department, 45 of the 174 robberies that occurred in the city between 1995 and July of this year took place in Union Academy.

But neither Pizza Hut nor Domino's officials cited any crime statistics as a basis for their policies.

That's troubling, DiDonato said.

"I personally can't believe there is a problem there (in Union Academy)," he said. "I think we need to sit down and talk this thing out. I want to make sure they are being fair and equitable, and not being arbitrary in drawing lines.

"If one part of Tarpon Springs is served, then all parts of Tarpon Spring ought to be served," DiDonato said.

Unless or until a new agreement is reached, Laverne Mackey of Union Academy will have to continue picking up her pizzas at a friend's house a few blocks away, which is out of the no-delivery area.

"I don't like that," she said. "It's wrong."


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Heck...There are areas I'd hate to be caught in after dark too, what's the big deal?
1 posted on 08/18/2002 5:02:56 PM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
Well since this is a crime decision and there is no link between being black and high crime, its just a crazy coincidence, so what does this have to do with race?
2 posted on 08/18/2002 5:11:28 PM PDT by dennis1x
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
If these big mouths want pizza delivered to their neighborhood, let them put on a company shirt & go to work for one of these places. Bet none of them have the guts to do it.
3 posted on 08/18/2002 5:12:23 PM PDT by mass55th
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
Former City Commissioner Glenn Davis has a different theory about why the pizza companies have chosen not to deliver to some neighborhoods.

The companies should agree to restart delivery if Mr. Glenn Davis agrees to deliver exclusively to that neighborhood for a week at night. Let him put his life where his mouth is.

4 posted on 08/18/2002 5:12:38 PM PDT by Lx
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
As a result, the company decided not to deliver after dark to an area bounded by Martin Luther King Boulevard...

As a result of being a white middle-aged man I too have decided to avoid neighborhoods that have street named after Martin Luther King after dark, does that make me a racist?

5 posted on 08/18/2002 5:13:52 PM PDT by TightSqueeze
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
Maaaan, this has been one slow news week for a pinhead story like this to get ink.
6 posted on 08/18/2002 5:14:51 PM PDT by martin_fierro
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
i dunno. i'm white and i pick up my pizza instead of having it delivered. less wait, no tip to pay. this chick oughta try it; or is she too afraid to go riding through her neighborhood streets at night to pick up the pizza?
7 posted on 08/18/2002 5:17:20 PM PDT by bandlength
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
Jessie Jackson isn't comfotable meeting unknown blacks on a dark street either.
8 posted on 08/18/2002 5:19:46 PM PDT by umgud
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
I have news for these people, there are some white neighborhoods I wouldn't go into.

They need to get a life and quit looking for racism around every corner. What is Pizza Hut going to do if their drivers refuse to go in those neighborhoods?

9 posted on 08/18/2002 5:20:58 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
The drivers must be *forced* to deliver pizza wherever the activists demand.

If they refuse, they must be put on a chain gang and forced to attend "re-education" classes.

So what if many of the drivers die? The nerve of them to expect to live.

Don't they know that the people in these crime-ridden neighborhoods are *entitled* to have pizza delivered to their door. Along with personal delivery of their $100,000 reparations checks.

10 posted on 08/18/2002 5:27:02 PM PDT by 07055
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To: mhking
Ping!
11 posted on 08/18/2002 5:29:44 PM PDT by geaux
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
According to crime statistics provided by the Tarpon Springs Police Department, 45 of the 174 robberies that occurred in the city between 1995 and July of this year took place in Union Academy. ...

"I personally can't believe there is a problem there (in Union Academy),"

Not a problem?

25% of the robberies in entire city take place in one neighborhood, and you don't believe there is a problem?

How much you want to bet this racist moron lives far, far away from Union Academy?

12 posted on 08/18/2002 5:30:31 PM PDT by 07055
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Black conservative ping

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13 posted on 08/18/2002 5:31:33 PM PDT by mhking
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To: TightSqueeze
More likely a realist, and not a starry-eyed idealist.
14 posted on 08/18/2002 5:32:20 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
And after dark, people in the restricted delivery area are offered discounts if they pick up their orders at the store.

I always pick up my pizza at the store but no one has ever offered me a discount for doing so. Racism!

15 posted on 08/18/2002 5:32:43 PM PDT by 07055
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
There is a simple solution to this problem. Have the federal government deliver pizza. It would create jobs, more members for government employee unions, and you could get your pizza by the secomd day, guaranteed by Uncle Sam.
16 posted on 08/18/2002 5:38:40 PM PDT by Comus
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29; Admin Moderator
Oops. The title is wrong. The last word "talk" is missing. Can we fix that?
17 posted on 08/18/2002 5:40:03 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
I wonder how many blacks, themselves, would deliver pizza to that neighborhood.
18 posted on 08/18/2002 5:44:54 PM PDT by Tigercap
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
Once again it's Whitey who is the blame. The Pizza francises have the right to deliver when and wherever they like. Once again, cries of racism.......they did their hole deeper and deeper and deeper and .......well, get the point?
19 posted on 08/18/2002 5:48:01 PM PDT by WyCoKsRepublican
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To: Lx
Heck, in Boston a few years ago, after some taxi drivers suffered grievous bodily harm in certain neighborhoods,
drivers, including those from said neighborhoods, were smart enough to decline fares to those neighborhoods.

Naturally, the usual suspects, including city councilors were screaming racism...

20 posted on 08/18/2002 5:50:19 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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