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To: Chuckmorse
Joe Sobran, an otherwise serious thinker, must have no idea how hateful and hurtful such disreputable revisionism is to Jews, nor does he probably care

Of course he knows and he does not care. Sobran's an anti-semite. That's why Buckley bounced him from NATIONAL REVIEW, and why he's joined the discredited ranks of Sam Francis and Charley Reese as the star columnists for the neo-Nazi, Confederate-flag-waving crowd.

2 posted on 08/18/2002 12:15:17 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
Joe Sobran is wanna be Nazi whose brother-in-trade is still in shadow.
3 posted on 08/18/2002 12:35:39 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: sinkspur
But how do you REALLY fell? :-)
4 posted on 08/18/2002 12:44:58 PM PDT by Valin
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To: sinkspur
Check out the love duet of Charley Reese and Michael Lerner, founder of the noxious, phoney "Jewish Renewal" so-called denomination. They are the Hitler-Stalin pact of the present day media! Thankfully, their local congregation here (Cleveland, Ohio) has collapsed!
5 posted on 08/18/2002 12:45:34 PM PDT by Ukiapah Heep
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To: sinkspur
> he's joined the discredited ranks of Sam Francis and Charley Reese

I read a 'Reese piece' last week and couldn't believe how deceived the guy is. He likened the Palestinian "Freedom Fighters" vs. Israel to the American patriots vs. Great Britan.
13 posted on 08/18/2002 1:46:04 PM PDT by Paul_B
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To: sinkspur
I have not read anything by Sobran in a while. I followed the link to his site and came upon this:

"The news that I would be addressing the Institute of Historical Review came to some people as ... well, news. It was mentioned in the Jewish newspaper Forward and on the Zionist Wall Street Journal Online"

Calling the WSJ online "Zionist" - well, I did not need to read anyfurther. The guy is obviously nuts.
16 posted on 08/18/2002 1:57:31 PM PDT by pittsburgh gop guy
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To: sinkspur
"Sobran's an anti-semite. "

Wow! That didn't take long. 1st post on the article and the 2nd sentence the anti-semite card is played. It is surprising this thread continued as once the card is played as no other dialog is required.

A serious question for those of us who would like an actual debate. Please select from the list below where a discussion regarding our Jewish friends makes the transition from unconditional support to anti-semite as there never seems to be middle ground.

#1: Total support. Can never do anything wrong.

#2: Note that Jews normally vote with the wonderful people on the left.

#3 Question why Jews lean towards the left.

#4 Question why Jews do not support the 2nd amendment.

#5 Include Jews in attacks on the left with the same vigor as we seem to give the Blacks, Hispanics, Union thugs, etc.

#6 Call the Jews the same names we call the groups in #5.

I will not go beyond #6 as I have no use for people that attack Jews beyond this point. However, it seems we have to treat them with extra care when we are in the #3-#6 zone. WHY.

Am I an anti-semite because after watching Fox and Friends every morning I wonder why almost once each 1/2 hour segment there is something about Israel when there is a much larger world out there with many more people. Based upon the knee jerk reaction on the FR to any negative comment regarding the Jewish people I tend to stay out of the discussion as I don't want to play poker when the deck contains only the anti-semite card.

194 posted on 08/19/2002 5:17:14 AM PDT by Wurlitzer
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