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Hil & Bill on the Vineyard (hyperemesis alert)
Cape Code Times ^ | 08/17/2002 | mailto:jkinsella@capecodonline.com

Posted on 08/17/2002 4:06:29 PM PDT by ozone1

Another Vineyard vacation for the Clintons Their latest island getaway coincides with talk that Hillary Clinton is eyeing the Oval Office.

By JAMES KINSELLA STAFF WRITER CHILMARK - Former President Clinton and his wife, U.S. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., arrived last night on Martha's Vineyard for a long weekend.

Bill and Hillary Clinton will celebrate the former president's 56th birthday on Monday in Chilmark. (AP Photo)

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The Clintons planned to join their daughter, Chelsea, at the summer home of Ken and Jill Iscol in Chilmark.

Chelsea Clinton arrived earlier in the week at the Iscol home, which overlooks Menemsha Pond. She is a friend of the Iscols' son, Zachary, and their daughter, Kiva.

On Monday, the former president will celebrate his 56th birthday. Jill Iscol said the Clintons plan to leave around Tuesday. "It's just very low-key," she said of the visit.

At the same time, Iscol said, getting away to the Vineyard is important to the Clintons.

She said the Vineyard is a place the Clintons love, "and where people love them."

"I wish he would come for all of August every year," said Everett Whorton, a builder from Oak Bluffs.

"I wish he were still president," said Tim Dobel, owner of Mocha Mott's, an Oak Bluffs coffee shop.

The long weekend comes as speculation heats up regarding Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential aspirations.

The Associated Press reported yesterday that she has begun building a national political organization, softening her liberal image and taking a lead role in Democratic criticism of President Bush - steps toward a potential campaign to become the first woman president.

Former President Clinton speaks about his wife's run for the presidency as a matter of "when," not "if," according to people who have discussed it with him. Several of her associates said she is eyeing 2008 as the year to run.

Mrs. Clinton said yesterday that she will not break a pledge to complete her six-year term that expires in 2006.

"I have no plans to run for president," she told the AP in a telephone interview.

Gearing up for a run Her actions suggest the former first lady is positioning herself for a history-making race. She has: Contributed nearly $600,000 to 73 Democratic candidates across the country through her political action committee and has raised even more money by headlining fund-raisers. She has helped candidates in key presidential states such as Iowa and New Hampshire.

Defended her husband's presidency against attacks from Republicans while sharpening her criticism of Bush.

Courted the party's moderate wing with a keynote speech to the centrist Democratic Leadership Council. She has sided with Republicans or centrist Democrats on bankruptcy, welfare and anti-Hollywood legislation.

"It used to be that Democrats came to Washington hoping to work for Ted Kennedy," said Donna Brazile, Al Gore's campaign manager. "Now they want to earn their stripes with Hillary."

Clinton has miles to go to override criticism by Republicans that she is a liberal Democrat whose major policy initiative - the 1993 universal health care plan - was a political and policy disaster.

"I think it's always hard for somebody with a full record and a range of interests to be portrayed ... in soundbites," Clinton said. "I was the first person in the country to call for teaching testing" as first lady of Arkansas "and I took enormous heat for that. I supported welfare reform in the Clinton administration and I took enormous heat for that."

Several advisers and friends close to Clinton, speaking on condition of anonymity, say she wants a Democrat to win the White House in 2004. If Bush wins re-election, however, she would almost certainly be a candidate four years later, they said.

Back to the Vineyard The Clintons first vacationed on the Vineyard in 1993. With the exception of 1996, they have returned to the island every year since. Until this year, the Clintons always have stayed in Edgartown.

But their Vineyard stays also have included time spent visiting friends in Chilmark.

Last summer, they visited the Iscols' house for a ceremony honoring Zachary Iscol, who joined the Marines as an officer and now is a second lieutenant.

And in 1995, they attended the October wedding of Ted Danson and Mary Steenburgen at the couple's home in Chilmark.

Chilmark Police Chief Tim Rich said he's had a couple of meetings with the Secret Service about this year's visit by the Clintons.

"We just augment and support the Secret Service as they need it," Rich said of his department.

Rich said the location of the Iscol house should help security arrangements for the visit.

"It's well away from any public way," he said. "If you can see the house, you're trespassing."

Rich said the Chilmark police also are experienced in working with the Secret Service.

"We know who they are," he said. "I'm anticipating business as usual."

Material from the Associated Press was used in this story. Contributing writer Jib Ellis provided additional material.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
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To: ozone1
The only time I have ever seen them with ordinary, everyday black people is for some photo op. Come to think of it, they are never around any ordinary, everyday white people.

Have you ever noticed that all Dims claiming to be of, by, and for the little people are always hobnobbing with the ultra-rich? And, are ultra-rich, themselves.

21 posted on 08/17/2002 4:29:52 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: j271
It's funny. Every former first couple manages to be in the same room together more than twice a year. However, these two, who the press is always trying to represent as being deeply in love, have to be introduced to each other each time they are in the same room.
22 posted on 08/17/2002 4:31:52 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: j271
It's not the place to be in winter:
"Martha's Vineyard in winter is something else: Highest unemployment in the State; Lowest median income, and one of the lowest per capita incomes in the State; 1 out of 5 families below poverty level; 1 out of 4 families affected by drug or alcohol abuse; 509 single-parent families--the highest ratio in the State--many in poverty;"
http://www.catalogueforphilanthropy.org/cfp/1997/boys_girls_174.htm
But the Summer residents could care less, they are elsewhere when the cold hits.
23 posted on 08/17/2002 4:32:35 PM PDT by ozone1
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To: ozone1
I thought Chel was getting marrried? Where is her intended? Is he getting his eyes and head examined?

24 posted on 08/17/2002 4:33:46 PM PDT by lawdude
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To: Paul Atreides
Do they hide the ashtrays first?
25 posted on 08/17/2002 4:36:00 PM PDT by ozone1
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To: lawdude
The beer goggles must have worn off.
26 posted on 08/17/2002 4:36:37 PM PDT by ozone1
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To: lawdude
Have you ever seen her "betrothed"? He looks as if Chelsea could break him in half. He has that same ratty hairdo as Chelsea and looks like Peter Brady. It would be interesting to see Daddy's reaction if he treats Chelsea like Bubba treats Hill.
27 posted on 08/17/2002 4:36:56 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: ozone1
Yep. As well as the used cigars.
28 posted on 08/17/2002 4:38:01 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
"Ken Iscol, a 1960 Cornell alumnus, was a leader in the development of the Personal Enterprise and Small Business Management Program and a founder of the Center for the Environment at Cornell. Jill Iscol manages the family's foundation and is an educator and sociologist. Most recently, she managed the New York senatorial campaign of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. Their children, Zach '01 and Kiva '03, are both Cornellians.

Said Jill Iscol: "With our own contributions, we try to combine our commitment to supporting institutions that have given so much to us with our interest in tackling social problems and fairness and equity issues. We believe these kinds of partnerships are an efficient and effective way to leverage human and financial resources."

Yes, Jill is very concerned about social problems and equity issues, yet she owns a home on the Vinyard, far away from any troubling humans....LOL!

"Rich said the location of the Iscol house should help security arrangements for the visit.

"It's well away from any public way," he said. "If you can see the house, you're trespassing."

29 posted on 08/17/2002 4:38:30 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: A Citizen Reporter
Wasn't life beautiful, before those three people became a horrible fixture in the American conscience?
30 posted on 08/17/2002 4:42:34 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: A Citizen Reporter
The Iscol family is listed on the Lincoln Bed room List.
31 posted on 08/17/2002 4:47:54 PM PDT by ozone1
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To: Torie
I'd *love* to get through a day without hearing about them, but, alas, they aren't going to let me have it!
32 posted on 08/17/2002 4:48:03 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Paul Atreides; A Citizen Reporter
God save us from these vile people.
33 posted on 08/17/2002 4:50:23 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: A Citizen Reporter
"Jill Iscol is the President of Jill Iscol & Associates, a newly formed independent consulting firm that advises not-for-profit organizations and philanthropists. She has demonstrated her lifelong commitment to education, social and economic justice, child and family policy and social change by serving as trustee for numerous organizations.

In addition, she serves on the Executive Council of the Northeast Chapter of the Women's Leadership Forum of the Democratic National Committee and is a contributor to the Progressive Policy Institute of the Democratic Leadership Council. She recently worked as an informal advisor to Hillary Rodham Clinton's senatorial campaign.

In 1997, Jill was appointed chairperson of the Annual Family Re-Union Conference in Tennessee, a post she held for three years. This highly productive conference, led by Vice President Al Gore, generated nationwide interagency networks and partnerships to promote family policy goals. Most recently Jill was a member of the planning committee for the White House Conference on Philanthropy.

Jill received her doctorate from Teachers College, Columbia University and a masters in philosophy in Sociology from Yale. She is a former member of the graduate faculty at Bank Street College and was co-director of the pre-service program in childhood education at Teachers College, Columbia University. "
34 posted on 08/17/2002 4:51:30 PM PDT by ozone1
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To: Howlin
"Last summer, they visited the Iscols' house for a ceremony honoring Zachary Iscol, who joined the Marines as an officer and now is a second lieutenant."

Guess he had to run away to the Marines to get away from these people. I'll give him credit.
35 posted on 08/17/2002 4:54:04 PM PDT by ozone1
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To: Howlin
Who would have thought that something like this would be at Martha's Vineyard, sponging of the rich and brainless.


36 posted on 08/17/2002 4:54:55 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: ozone1
Come on ! Lighten up a bit !

Ted Kennedy will maybe drop by and give them swimming lessons .

37 posted on 08/17/2002 4:55:01 PM PDT by genefromjersey
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To: ozone1
I bet they wouldn't leave the daughter alone in the same room with Bubba for a second.
38 posted on 08/17/2002 4:55:58 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: genefromjersey
I wish he would just drop ON them.
39 posted on 08/17/2002 4:57:22 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
She's an equestrian rider, so she's used to horses.
40 posted on 08/17/2002 4:57:53 PM PDT by ozone1
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