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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This may not be the place for this post but I keep wondering over the evolution of Marxism, the fall of great powers, and the nasty residue found under the carpet as it all takes place.

Marx/Engles thought they'd come up with a plan for restructuring industrial societies (Germany in fact).

The plan only bore serious fruit in rural, backward, and unproductive cultures. The Soviet Union, attempting to apply socialism to industrial power, fell on it's butt inside one long lifetime. China's rural communism was able to oust one set of (Russian designed) autocrats only to replace them with another. Although the source of power and means of ascent changed, China is ruled today pretty much the way it has always been ruled. New mandarins and large armies to keep the masses employed and in line; still relying on population as it's prime asset.

While great wars were being fought, allegedly between communism and capitalism, the bottom half of the third world - Africa - devolved still further into rural marxism. Rather, into something based on marx and encouraged by a western inability to sustain leadership in the wake of a war that served to destroy confidence along with millions of people.

Even in the US, the apparent winner in the mid-century war games, recovery meant entrenchment of socialist policies simply by promoting those schooled in them during their brief idalistic phase and passed on to the hedonistic generation that followed. (Incidentally killing off or marginalizing many of those less inclined to self worship in a couple of smaller, "limited", controlled (?), wars along he way.)

So today we are not faced with socialism as the evil empire but as the insidious whine of entire continents and subcontinents unwilling even to attmpt to help themselves but highly versed in hatred, repression, and in manipulating their United Nations. We, he west and the US, look upon these nasty little people as our own failures; neatly enforcing the guilt our academics have assigned to "the white man's burden". This despite having spent fifty years attempting to assure that there should be no distinction between "white" and any other form of man or woman in our own society.

I truly do pine for the days when a broad ocean was sufficient barrier against the world. I also pine for the days when western civilization had some faith in itself. (I read about both in history books that are probably now long out of print & I'm afraid to look at their replacement tomes because I think I know what I'd find.)

Sorry, but I should now be able to suppress any desire to post a rant for another six months or so.

11 posted on 08/17/2002 6:42:25 AM PDT by norton
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To: norton
You should post more, because your points are correct and well made. Zim is just the tip of the iceberg. Viola someone was just on C-SPAN whining about Reparations. It seems foolish to us now, but in another 10 years we'll all be so sick of hearing about it we'll sign on the dotted line just to shut the whiners up. I take solace in the fact that I'm not 20 anymore, but fear for my kids and the world they will have to live in.
12 posted on 08/17/2002 8:45:55 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: norton
the insidious whine of entire continents and subcontinents unwilling even to attmpt to help themselves but highly versed in hatred, repression, and in manipulating

You put that very well, neighbor. Coming soon to America, I fear.

13 posted on 08/17/2002 8:49:52 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: norton
So today we are not faced with socialism as the evil empire but as the insidious whine of entire continents and subcontinents unwilling even to attmpt to help themselves but highly versed in hatred, repression, and in manipulating their United Nations. We, he west and the US, look upon these nasty little people as our own failures; neatly enforcing the guilt our academics have assigned to "the white man's burden". This despite having spent fifty years attempting to assure that there should be no distinction between "white" and any other form of man or woman in our own society. I truly do pine for the days when a broad ocean was sufficient barrier against the world. I also pine for the days when western civilization had some faith in itself. (I read about both in history books that are probably now long out of print & I'm afraid to look at their replacement tomes because I think I know what I'd find.)

Hopefully, we'll hang on long enough to see these societies mature out of their "teen" years and adopt good government. Some are more advanced than others. Then there's the U.N., a twisted "Eddie Haskel," gumming up everything by pushing their socialist ideas to constantly undermine democracy.

There still are good books out there but they're buried under all the dreck the LIBERAL publishing houses print, not to mention all the garbage fed to "students" in public schools.

Rants are good.

16 posted on 08/18/2002 1:38:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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