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Bush Administration Plan to Invade Iraq Dubious at Best
The American Partisan ^ | August 16, 2002 | David T. Pyne

Posted on 08/16/2002 12:37:18 PM PDT by rightwing2

Bush Administration Plan to Invade Iraq Dubious at Best
First of Three Parts
by David T. Pyne


August 16, 2002

Recent news reports indicate that Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, in an unprecedented move, has locked out the Joint Chiefs of Staff from further planning for the planned US invasion of Iraq. This action was reportedly taken due to recent leaks by some of our highest-ranking general officers of US war plans, who remain wary of fighting another war against Iraq this time without provocation or justification. While our top generals are not convinced that war with Iraq is a prudent course of action, those of our top policymakers who have never fought in a war are leading the charge to invade Iraq. The only combat veteran among them, Secretary of State Colin Powell has been wisely urging that caution be exercised by the President in getting the US into another war with Iraq and informing the President of all of the undesirable consequences that would likely result from such an unprovoked unilateral US invasion of Iraq.

According to polls, two thirds of the American people would support another US invasion of Iraq. Too many Americans dismiss the Iraqi military machine after the seemingly easy victory of 1991 during Operation Desert Storm achieved at the cost of only a few hundred US soldiers killed in action. Over the past few months, the news reports have been blaring with headlines announcing the Administration's secret plans to invade Iraq. Such planning has ranged from a full-scale 250,000 man invasion which would come closest to ensuring victory though at a potentially high cost in casualties during the war and ensuing occupation to one which would involve as few as 50,000 airborne and special operations troops. This contingency plan is based on the likely erroneous presumption that effective organized and well-armed opposition to Saddam exists and would take action if only the US 82nd Airborne Division were only to appear outside Baghdad to support it.

This last plan would likely result in total disaster for the US forces participating in it. The reason is that even after the destruction wrought upon it by the US armed forces during Operation Desert Storm, Iraq retains a large Army consisting of 424,000 men in 23 divisions including 2200 main-battle tanks, 3700 other assorted armored vehicles, 2400 major artillery weapons and up to 300 operational combat aircraft. It also has another 120,000 men in its internal security forces, which could be expected to defend Saddam from capture. After recent upgrades with help from the Communist China, North Korea and Yugoslavia, Iraq now boasts one of the best air defense systems in the world according to national security experts.

If anyone seriously believes that the nearly 550,000 defenders of Iraq are going to give up the fight at the sight of a mere 20,000 US light infantry troops landing near Baghdad, they are in for a big surprise. While the first US-Iraqi war did prove that much of the Iraqi military lacks the will to fight, it also proved that the tens of thousands of well-trained and well-equipped Republican Guard troops would likely to mount an effective and determined resistance to a US invasion. These Iraqi forces would outnumber US invading troops by over eight to one and could conceivably surround and capture large numbers of US troops before they could safely be extricated and before US reinforcements could be sent in to save them. In short, if the US were to commit the 82nd Airborne to the capture of Baghdad unassisted by heavier armor and artillery formations, it would undoubtedly result in the highest number of combat casualties since the Vietnam War.

Top policymakers in the Administration appear to have forgotten the lesson of Desert Storm which is that large numbers of troops with heavy tanks win wars in their desire to repeat the successes of Afghanistan in which 50,000 US Special Forces troops were able to beat a ragtag and poorly equipped Army of 47,000 Taleban and assorted Al Queda irregulars. A word of warning-Iraq is no Afghanistan. It would take at least 200,000 well supported and well-equipped US ground troops with plenty of tanks and tracked armored vehicles to win another war against Iraq. Anthony H. Cordesman, a former Pentagon official, now a senior fellow and Iraq expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies cautioned, "I think it is incredibly dangerous to be dismissive" of the Iraqi military. "To be careless about this war, to me, would be a disaster."

The grand coalition which former President George HW Bush organized to challenge the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait has long since been broken thanks to the polarization of the Arab world with the US-led war on terror and the Israeli war against Palestinian terror. If the US were to invade Iraq, it would likely do so virtually alone without any coalition allies. Even America's closest ally, the UK has voiced opposition to the US plan to invade Iraq. Only Israel would support such a war even though Israeli intelligence publicized the fact that Iraq has no discernable connections to the 9-11 terrorists. However, any Israeli military intervention against Iraq would further anger the entire Arab world against the US and possibly even risk an enlargement of the conflict.

It seems that the Bush Administration has failed to learn from the mistakes of the past and will embark on a course of regime change with the intention to kill or capture Saddam Hussein, which will ensure a no holds bar conflict that is most likely to maximize casualties on both sides. It would be far wiser to come to an accommodation with Saddam whereby he steps down in favor of another more acceptable successor and agrees to go into exile with immunity from prosecution. That would maximize the prospect for another victory at low cost in blood and treasure and might well eliminate the perceived "need" for the US to invade Iraq in the first place. It was recently reported that Hussein was considering formally stepping down from power in a bid to end UN sanctions on his country so such a development is not out of the question. It would be more sensible for the US to restrain itself to fighting one war at a time. An invasion of Iraq would not be prudent before the war in Afghanistan is finished. The Iraq warhawks in the Bush Administration would do well to consider why they have been unable to persuade any of their allies to support their planned unprovoked aggressive war against Iraq. ***

Next up: Part 2--Would another invasion of Iraq be justified?

© 2002 David T. Pyne


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: bush; iraq; war
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To: KainIV
Relevant section:

"Ritter said his reassessment of the danger posed by Iraq's weapon programs was brought about by a change in his own job title. As a U.N. inspector, he was under orders from the U.N. Security Council to achieve 100 percent disarmament regarding prohibited weapons in Iraq, a standard Baghdad never met. As an independent observer, Ritter said he believes that Iraq's military has been sufficiently degraded by the U.N. inspectors to prevent Saddam Hussein from threatening his neighbors. "

101 posted on 08/16/2002 4:04:46 PM PDT by ProudAmerican2
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To: rdb3
Read what Rightwing2 actually said, carefully.

Seems he didn't actually say he was an officer, just that he held a position equivalent to a Lt. Colonel. He doesn't rate a real salute, but yours will do.

If he was an actual military officer he would understand the concept of civilian control of the military. He would also know that leaking war plans is treason.

Many of our colonels and generals were picked by Clinton. I know a few military types (I'm an Air Force Academy grad), and I can tell you Clinton looked for political correctness, not military expertise. That is one reason morale plummeted under Clinton.

If Rumsfeld doesn't like the Clinton types, so what? He gets to pick his own help. Any general who is out of the loop is out for a reason.
102 posted on 08/16/2002 4:04:48 PM PDT by EternalHope
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To: rightwing2
I agree that an invasion of Iraq is completely unwarranted. But I disagree with a major argument against war with Iraq presented in this article. The author seems to be saying that Iraqi forces would put up stiff resistance if the US Invaded. All expereince with them proves otherwise. I have no doubt that if the US invaded Iraq resistance would be token, sporadic, and unorganized. Iraq is a totalitarian one party state. Sadaam is a mid-East stalin whose regime survies only on fierce repression, fear, and violence. But it is also open to a great extent to the rest of the world. It's people are well aware of what type of regime they have. If the US were to invade Sadaam's authority would evaporate.

It isn't taking down Hussein that I think would be the problem it would be what the hell we did after that would be a quagmire.

103 posted on 08/16/2002 4:06:01 PM PDT by Burkeman1
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To: KainIV
Maybe sellout is a better term? or political mercenary? or belief prostitute?

Read the link.

104 posted on 08/16/2002 4:06:25 PM PDT by ProudAmerican2
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To: rightwing2; rdb3
who are too cowardly to serve their country, wear the proud uniform of the US Army and fight for their country.

Hey, RDB, I did not have 82nd Airborne size 15 jump boots like you did, but I wore the proud uniform of the US Air Force. We were smarter, however, because we let the commissioned officers do all the fighting.

105 posted on 08/16/2002 4:06:43 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: rdb3
Things like you? Very easy. Requires absolutely no effort at all to make you just "disappear."

Yeah, whatever...

106 posted on 08/16/2002 4:07:16 PM PDT by ProudAmerican2
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To: EternalHope
To that post, EH, let me give you a hearty 82d HOOAH!

Indeed.

107 posted on 08/16/2002 4:07:26 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: ProudAmerican2
"Ritter said his reassessment of the danger posed by Iraq's weapon programs was brought about by a change in his own job title. As a U.N. inspector, he was under orders from the U.N. Security Council to achieve 100 percent disarmament regarding prohibited weapons in Iraq, a standard Baghdad never met. As an independent observer, Ritter said he believes that Iraq's military has been sufficiently degraded by the U.N. inspectors to prevent Saddam Hussein from threatening his neighbors. "

How does Ritter know this? Did Saddam tell him?

108 posted on 08/16/2002 4:08:35 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: ProudAmerican2
You ain't "what," and you ain't "whatever."

Let me fill you in. I don't use harsh profanity, but let's just say that I came up "talkin' sh-t and swallowin' spit." In other words, it would behoove you to fall out expeditiously because this is a fight you can't win.

Get ta steppin'!

109 posted on 08/16/2002 4:09:30 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: demlosers
Is there any doubt that Hussein was behind 911? thats enough reason ...."Lets Roll" (in the words of a great common Man)
110 posted on 08/16/2002 4:09:41 PM PDT by ClearasaBell
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To: Mark17
Hey, RDB, I did not have 82nd Airborne size 15 jump boots like you did, but I wore the proud uniform of the US Air Force. We were smarter, however, because we let the commissioned officers do all the fighting.

LOL, thats what my buddy tells me, he was in the air cadets too. :-}

111 posted on 08/16/2002 4:10:30 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: rdb3
Let me fill you in. I don't use harsh profanity, but let's just say that I came up "talkin' sh-t and swallowin' spit." In other words, it would behoove you to fall out expeditiously because this is a fight you can't win.

Yeah, whatever...

112 posted on 08/16/2002 4:11:32 PM PDT by ProudAmerican2
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To: ClearasaBell
Is there any doubt that Hussein was behind 911? thats enough reason ...."Lets Roll" (in the words of a great common Man)

Might want to wait for some proof...

113 posted on 08/16/2002 4:12:08 PM PDT by ProudAmerican2
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To: jwalsh07
How does Ritter know this? Did Saddam tell him?

He lead no-notice raids in Iraq from 1993 to 1998.

114 posted on 08/16/2002 4:12:57 PM PDT by ProudAmerican2
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To: ProudAmerican2
Soldier! You better move like you got a purpose in life!

Left! Left! Left! Left! Right foot never strikes the marching surface!

Move out!

115 posted on 08/16/2002 4:13:46 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: rdb3
Move out!

Yeah, whatever...

116 posted on 08/16/2002 4:14:34 PM PDT by ProudAmerican2
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To: Burkeman1
It isn't taking down Hussein that I think would be the problem it would be what the hell we did after that would be a quagmire.

That's a real problem. One idea floating around is to divide Iraq into four separate nations. Even if they all end up with rotten governments, they would not be strong enough to pose a threat to us or their neighbors.

117 posted on 08/16/2002 4:14:37 PM PDT by EternalHope
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To: ProudAmerican2
More proof than we need has been displayed before the world already ...however im sure we will get a chit load more of it in the very near future...
118 posted on 08/16/2002 4:15:17 PM PDT by ClearasaBell
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To: ProudAmerican2
Might want to wait for some proof...

I think we already got the "some proof."

119 posted on 08/16/2002 4:15:23 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: Biker Scum; Jack-A-Roe
Hey, I never said I was a gentleman, just a former officer. However, I responded the way I did because I am sick and tired of people who have never served telling me that I am some kind of panty-waisted wimp for trying to advocate the policies which I am certain are the best for the US and those which are most likely to serve the US national security interest. If you served in NAM, fine, I take back those comments in regards to you. My response was really directed solely to bombard and rdb3 so I apologize for copying you on it and thus infering that it was directed against you.

BTW, I have attended POW-MIA events like the annual Operation Rolling Thunder so stand shoulder to shoulder with fellow vets who have spent time in combat. POW-MIA is a very emotional issue for me. I can't bare the thought that the US government knowingly left hundreds if not a couple thousand of our men to rot to death in Vietnamese prisons just because they were unwilling to lose face and pay reparations to get them back. The truth is we should have invaded North Vietnam from the outset with overwhelming force. Know it all politicians were responsible for getting 50,000 of our finest killed in NAM and won't you know it, it looks like they are about to repeat their historical mistake and do it again on a smaller scale in Iraq. So be it. May the blood of our fighting dead be upon their heads.
120 posted on 08/16/2002 4:15:28 PM PDT by rightwing2
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