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To: Grampa Dave
"Galloway said his reports mention no managers' names or offices where the decisions originated from."

The managers in their offices are a HUGE part of the problem. They go to college for four years and are indoctrinated into the left-wing socialist school of Geaia, then they think they know more tabout forestry than the guys with years of field experience. It's the same all over the country, and the entire USFS needs to THIN OUT these morons. They do almost nothing but damage.

In NY State, Hubby's doing a difficult job on a steep side hill, which was started and abandoned by someone else. The mistakes made by the guys who started and quit have made a difficult job into a real nightmare to a guy with twenty years of forestry experience.

Along comes this rep from the Western NY office of the USFS. Hubby described him as a "snot nosed brat" who looked about 14. Snot Nose proceded to lecture Hubby, a former Hotshot, on how to prevent forest fires. Hubby tried to take it in good grace...until Snot Nose seemed skeptical about Hubby's many certifications.

It turned into an argument, though Hubby did get to meet Snot Nose's boss...another former firefighter who was at Yellowstone with Hubby.

Snot Nose didn't take it well...he went back to his office and proceded to call the DEC and tell them there was dirt and bark on the bridge across the creek, and that they should some out and look and make Hubby get out with a broom and sweep the debris off the bridge after every single trip, because rain might wash the dirt and bark from the bridge and "contaminate his river"...as if dirt and debris from a steep hillside has never washed into the river.

The DEC did come...they also told Hubby who had called and said Snot Nose has done this before. They did NOT make him weep off the bridge after every trip across.

These morons are everywhere...and they need to be FIRED. PERIOD.

11 posted on 08/16/2002 10:48:03 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: cake_crumb
In the Marines we called them Butter-Bars or UAH's (Useless A$$Holes, not to be confused with HUA, Head Up A$$ nor NUG, New Useless Guy).

EBUCK

15 posted on 08/16/2002 11:24:02 AM PDT by EBUCK
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