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Couple Arrested for Having Sex in New York City Cathedral
Fox News/NY Post ^ | Friday, August 16, 2002 | By Philip Messing, Marianne Garvey and Hasani Gittens

Posted on 08/16/2002 9:50:33 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:34:28 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

NEW YORK

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: cathedral; catholic; freep; paulmercurio; sacrilege; sex; stpatricks; viacom
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To: Travis McGee
But the Catholic church is fair game for every low degrading insult.

Why is that?

141 posted on 08/16/2002 11:22:56 AM PDT by stanz
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To: stanz
"What's the matter? Can't Catholics criticize other
Catholics?"

Yes, constructively! Not by listening to a low-life radio show that seeks to make a mockery out of religion.

And I thought you just said that you don't want to discuss anything other than that you thought it was funny. Yet, you keep attacking the Catholic church. To you, ANYTHING is an excuse to attack religion.
142 posted on 08/16/2002 11:23:51 AM PDT by kitkat
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To: Gerish
I would NEVER wish a disease on ANYONE, regardless of what they have done. That's sick, sick, sick...
143 posted on 08/16/2002 11:24:36 AM PDT by TamiPie
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
It's not unusual to see human scum gravitate towards show biz. And lacking the talent and wit to be intertaining....they normally resort to lewd and sophomoric sexual pranks. I think they are stuck in that childhood stage where they think it's funny to see some grown up's pee pee.
144 posted on 08/16/2002 11:28:43 AM PDT by JessicaDragonet
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
Listen, Sans Merci, I'm getting tired of trying to reiterate that my original post was a bit of humor. It's not "bashing" it's just staring at reality. Too bad some of you don't think it was funny. What is this the inquisition? I didn't "confess" to anything. I just said that no one should be above criticism (even me.) If you feel that the Catholic church is taking a bad rap, you should ask why.


145 posted on 08/16/2002 11:30:05 AM PDT by stanz
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
And to think, they passed up an opportunity to gross out Big Brother by "doing it" in front of one of NYC's security cameras...
146 posted on 08/16/2002 11:30:07 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: andy_card
By fearing God, you put a cap on your own reason.

You and Clarence Darrow couldn't be more wrong if you tried. C.S. Lewis said when you give yourself to God, He gives you back to yourself, only better. There are quite a few Christian philosophers like Lewis who could put paid to Clarence Darrow's puny vision.

And the word is not the same, unless you want to challenge every English lexicographer on it.

147 posted on 08/16/2002 11:30:09 AM PDT by wimpycat
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To: BikerNYC
"No, that wouldn't follow according to my argument. My argument applies when
no property or persons are damaged or destroyed. "

Then your argument is false! Damage WAS done to the right of people to worship peacefully. By now, you've figured out that your original hypothesis was flaweed and you're arguig just to justify yourself.

As to whether I usually judge a group by one representative of it, you know very well what I meant. I think you're running out of locigal responses.
149 posted on 08/16/2002 11:30:34 AM PDT by kitkat
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To: Travis McGee
BTW, I'm the proud husband of another DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet, and I am the son of a US Navy Okinawa Vet.

Please give your father, father-in-law, and wife my warmest regards.

150 posted on 08/16/2002 11:31:36 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: kitkat
I'll say this again... I DID NOT LISTEN TO ANY SHOW.
151 posted on 08/16/2002 11:31:41 AM PDT by stanz
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
"..."Unbelievable," said New Yorker Ren Brown. "I try not to judge, but that's just going too far." ...

While the act of desecration described in the article desrves a lot of comment---the above statement by a scandalizedCatholic is worth a great deal of consideration by Catholics who are wondering what has happened to our Church. It's a sliver of light slanting across the whole horrifying desecration by fops, feminists, philosophical flatulents, flimsy pseudo-men---the whole host of f****rs who are getting it on, one way or another, in the pews, the aisles, the chanceries, the schools, the universities and in the seminaries.

It's consciousness-raising time and I am grateful you took the time to post this consciousness-raising article.

A Catholic Church--a famous, historical spot--was chosen for a reason. Scavengers and predators survive because they choose their targets wisely--rationally. It should make Catholics think long and hard about the fact that, from a modern American pop-culture standpoint a Catholic Church would be a rational choice for pop-desecration.

152 posted on 08/16/2002 11:34:49 AM PDT by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: lady lawyer
Thank you, I wholeheartedly agree. What a disgusting, disrespectful, and vile act to do in a sacred place! I just can't believe that ANYONE with an ounce of decency would find anything amusing in this whole thing. What's next? Wait, don't tell me, I don't think I want to know....
153 posted on 08/16/2002 11:34:50 AM PDT by Henrietta
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I'm not Catholic, but I've had occasion to attend Mass and I'm fairly certain that that's not how you're supposed to exchange the sign of peace.
154 posted on 08/16/2002 11:35:31 AM PDT by RichInOC
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To: stanz
"I never listened to anything. Just read the posts at FR."

Yep, and JUMPED on it to do your Catholic bashing.
155 posted on 08/16/2002 11:36:11 AM PDT by kitkat
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To: Between the Lines
Yes they can and do. They can also bash the Catholic church as you did when you said, "Just remember what's going on in confessionals and behind closed doors in the Catholic church is not exactly pious and respectful."

Since when is telling the truth called bashing. Is what went on a lie? Am I exaggerating? Do you think we should all bury our heads in the sand like Cardinal Law?

156 posted on 08/16/2002 11:36:46 AM PDT by stanz
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To: kitkat
Read my post #156.
157 posted on 08/16/2002 11:37:59 AM PDT by stanz
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
1. Prostitution is generally regulated by state law. New York State Penal Law Section 230.25 makes it a Class D felony when someone "knowingly advances or profits from prostitution by managing, supervising, controlling or owning ... a prostitution business or enterprise ". To knowingly advance or profit from prostitution is a class A misdemeanor under Section 230.20.

2. Federal RICO statutes make it illegal to act in concert with other people or organizations to promote prostitution in violation of state law.

The DA's should prosecute this as a RICO case in Federal Court...A sexual act for profit and a violation of the Mann Act.


18 USCS @ 2421 (1994) @ 2421.
*** THIS SECTION IS CURRENT THROUGH P.L. 103-321, APPROVED
8/26/94 ***
TITLE 18. CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE PART I. CRIMES
CHAPTER 117. TRANSPORTATION FOR ILLEGAL SEXUAL ACTIVITY AND
RELATED CRIMES @ 2421.

Transportation generally Whoever knowingly transports any individual in interstate or foreign commerce, or in any Territory or Possession of the United States, with intent that such individual engage in prostitution, or in any sexual activity for which any person can be charged
with a criminal offense, shall be fined under this title or
imprisoned not more than five years, or both.



158 posted on 08/16/2002 11:38:31 AM PDT by ijcr
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To: Travis McGee
Loretta Lynn Harper, 35, of Alexandria, Va., and her boyfriend, Brian Florence, 37, of Quantico, Va.

RE your Virginian's in the news: They are Northern Virginians. BIG difference...

159 posted on 08/16/2002 11:38:41 AM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; Ronaldus Magnus; *FREEP!
Bump for the following:

Time to FREEP FCC Chairman Michael K. Powell mpowell@fcc.gov.

Chairman Powell,

I ask that you investigate and prosecute WNEW-FM for their funding and broadcasting of a public sex act in St. Patrick's Cathedral during religious services. As part of the "Opie and Anthony" radio show, the station paid $7,000 for a couple to have sex during the a religious service only five feet from parishioners. I am outraged by this perversion of our nation's airwaves and their use to fund this sick activity during a solemn mass in a church. I ask you to personally see that the FCC does everything it can to punish this abuse, including rescinding this station's broadcast license.

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From the Federal Communications Commission Website on Complaint Mechanism:



"The date and time of the broadcast....Under the Communications Act of 1934, if the Commission assesses a monetary forfeiture against a broadcast station for violation of a rule, it must specify the date the violation occurred. Accordingly, it is important that complainants provide the date the material in question was broadcast. Moreover, under statutory and judicial case law, a broadcaster's right to air indecent speech is protected between the hours of 10 p.m. and 6 a.m. Consequently, the Commission must know the time of day that the material was broadcast.

The call sign of the station involved....The Commission's obscenity/indecency enforcement program is directed at individual broadcast station licensees and not an individual radio announcer, the music industry or a specific music performer. Accordingly, the Commission staff must know the call sign of the station that aired the material. It is not enough, for example, to name the radio announcer who made the on-air statement.

Documented complaints as discussed above should be directed to the Federal Communications Commission, Enforcement Bureau, Investigations & Hearing Division, 445 12th Street, S.W., Washington, D.C. 20554 Any documentation of the programming, of necessity, becomes part of the Commission's records and cannot be returned.

Further reference: Commission's ) Case Law Interpreting 18 U.S.C. ) § 1464 ) and Enforcement Policies ) Regarding Broadcast Indecency

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C'mon eagle conservatives. Time to get organized (like we did against Clinton on a daily basis when action was called for). Time to act like 'liberals' when they are offended by 'hate speech.' The libs take no-holds bar hardball when they are outraged, and they do it mercilessly, for keeps. We need to take a page from their book.

160 posted on 08/16/2002 11:38:45 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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