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Top Republicans Break With Bush on Iraq Strategy
The New York Times ^ | 08/16/2002 | TODD S. PURDUM and PATRICK E. TYLER

Posted on 08/15/2002 7:30:56 PM PDT by Pokey78

WASHINGTON, Aug. 15 — Leading Republicans from Congress, the State Department and past administrations have begun to break ranks with President Bush over his administration's high-profile planning for war with Iraq, saying the administration has neither adequately prepared for military action nor made the case that it is needed.

These senior Republicans include former Secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger and Brent Scowcroft, the first President Bush's national security adviser. All say they favor the eventual removal of Saddam Hussein, but some say they are concerned that Mr. Bush is proceeding in a way that risks alienating allies, creating greater instability in the Middle East, and harming long-term American interests. They add that the administration has not shown that Iraq poses an urgent threat to the United States.

At the same time, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, who summoned Mr. Kissinger for a meeting on Tuesday, and his advisers have decided that they should focus international discussion on how Iraq would be governed after Mr. Hussein — not only in an effort to assure a democracy but as a way to outflank administration hawks and slow the rush to war, which many in the department oppose.

"For those of us who don't see an invasion as an article of faith but as simply a policy option, there is a feeling that you need to give great consideration to what comes after, and that unless you're prepared to follow it through, then you shouldn't begin it," one senior administration official involved in foreign policy said today.

In an opinion article published today in The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Scowcroft, who helped build the broad international coalition against Iraq in the Persian Gulf war, warned that "an attack on Iraq at this time would seriously jeopardize, if not destroy, the global counter-terrorist campaign we have undertaken." An attack might provoke Iraq to use chemical or biological weapons in an effort to trigger war between Israel and the Arab world, he said.

His criticism has particular meaning for Mr. Bush because Mr. Scowcroft was virtually a member of the Bush family during the first President Bush's term and has maintained close relations with the former president.

Senator Chuck Hagel, Republican of Nebraska said that Secretary Powell and his deputy, Richard L. Armitage, had recently told President Bush of their concerns about the risks and complexities of a military campaign against Iraq, especially without broad international support. But senior White House and State Department officials said they were unaware of any such meeting.

Also today, Lawrence S. Eagleburger, who was briefly secretary of state for Mr. Bush's father, told ABC News that unless Mr. Hussein "has his hand on a trigger that is for a weapon of mass destruction, and our intelligence is clear, I don't know why we have to do it now, when all our allies are opposed to it."

Last week, Representative Dick Armey, the House majority leader, raised similar concerns.

The comments by Mr. Scowcroft and others in the Republican foreign policy establishment appeared to be a loosely coordinated effort. Mr. Scowcroft first spoke out publicly 10 days ago on the CBS News program "Face the Nation."

In an opinion article published on Monday in The Washington Post, Mr. Kissinger made a long and complex argument about the international complications of any military campaign, writing that American policy "will be judged by how the aftermath of the military operation is handled politically," a statement that seems to play well with the State Department's strategy.

"Military intervention should be attempted only if we are willing to sustain such an effort for however long it is needed," he added. Far from ruling out military intervention, Mr. Kissinger said the challenge was to build a careful case that the threat of proliferation of weapons of mass destruction calls for creation of a new international security framework in which pre-emptive action may sometimes be justified.

Through his office in New York, Mr. Kissinger relayed a message that his meeting with Secretary Powell had been scheduled before the publication of his article and was unrelated. But a State Department official said Secretary Powell had wanted Mr. Kissinger's advice on how to influence administration thinking on both Iraq and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

In The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Scowcroft wrote that if the United States "were seen to be turning our backs" on the Israeli-Palestinian dispute "in order to go after Iraq, there would be an explosion of outrage against us."

He added: "There is a virtual consensus in the world against an attack on Iraq at this time. So long as that sentiment persists, it would require the U.S. to pursue a virtual go-it-alone strategy against Iraq, making any military operations correspondingly more difficult and expensive."

Richard N. Perle, a former Reagan administration official and one of the leading hawks who has been orchestrating an urgent approach to attacking Iraq, said today that Mr. Scowcroft's arguments were misguided and naïve.

"I think Brent just got it wrong," he said by telephone from France. "The failure to take on Saddam after what the president said would produce such a collapse of confidence in the president that it would set back the war on terrorism."

Mr. Perle added, "I think it is naïve to believe that we can produce results in the 50-year-old dispute between the Israelis and the Arabs, and therefore this is an excuse for not taking action."

Senator Hagel, who was among the earliest voices to question Mr. Bush's approach to Iraq, said today that the Central Intelligence Agency had "absolutely no evidence" that Iraq possesses or will soon possess nuclear weapons.

He said he shared Mr. Kissinger's concern that Mr. Bush's policy of pre-emptive strikes at governments armed with weapons of mass destruction could induce India to attack Pakistan and could create the political cover for Israel to expel Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza.

"You can take the country into a war pretty fast," Mr. Hagel said, "but you can't get out as quickly, and the public needs to know what the risks are."

He added, "Maybe Mr. Perle would like to be in the first wave of those who go into Baghdad."

For months, the State Department's approach has been to focus on how to build a government in Iraq.

After meetings here last week involving Iraqi opposition groups and administration officials, one official said today that there was now consensus in the State Department that if more discussion was focused on the challenge of creating a post-Hussein government, "that would start broaching the question of what kind of assistance you are going to need from the international community to assure this structure endures — read between the lines, how long the occupation will have to be."

Such discussions, the official added, would have a sobering effect on the war-planners.


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To: maui_hawaii
No one doubts that 67% or so of China's population today is still peasants. But 20 years ago, that figure was over 90%. In the next 20 years, it'll probably drop below 50%. Remember, think process.
281 posted on 08/15/2002 11:23:36 PM PDT by AIG
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To: AIG
Well if Erikson says so, it must be true. Maybe it is. That surprises me though.
282 posted on 08/15/2002 11:23:45 PM PDT by Torie
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To: AIG
China's rise to the country with the second biggest population of Internet users was reported by Gartner Group, a US market tracking firm, several weeks ago. Pretty soon, there'll be more Chinese internet users than American. 144 posted on 8/15/02 11:25 PM Central by AIG

Soooo, what's you're point???? The chinese play more shockwave games than the U.S.??? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

283 posted on 08/15/2002 11:24:42 PM PDT by blondee123
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To: Torie
The thing is that India's inflation rate is so high, which makes India's GDP or per-capita GDP figures illusory.
284 posted on 08/15/2002 11:25:04 PM PDT by AIG
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To: blondee123
Someone earlier expressed surprised that any Chinese actually had access to a computer.
285 posted on 08/15/2002 11:25:48 PM PDT by AIG
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To: AIG
Purchasing power parity corrects for that, but then you already know that.
286 posted on 08/15/2002 11:25:58 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
It's not just Ericcson or Sony, but every other player in the cell phone industry knows China is the #1 market now.
287 posted on 08/15/2002 11:26:46 PM PDT by AIG
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To: AIG
So 176 million Chinese now have cell phones. That's interesting.
288 posted on 08/15/2002 11:28:16 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
You asked me to back it up, so that's what I did.
289 posted on 08/15/2002 11:29:19 PM PDT by AIG
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To: AIG
You may be right. But I would like to see something more tangible that suggests that many cell phones are really extant in China. Maybe they are.
290 posted on 08/15/2002 11:30:34 PM PDT by Torie
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To: kdoxxx
You seem to suggest that my views have been closeted. I have been posting them with extraordinay candor on this site for about 3 years in considerable volume. Maybe you are a Newbie. As to their ideology, I leave it to others to judge. I don't think "liberal" is the right term, but maybe it is for you.
292 posted on 08/15/2002 11:38:09 PM PDT by Torie
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To: maui_hawaii
If the US was "hunting for cheap labor," why blame China for giving the US what it wanted. When US workers want maximum wages while US consumers want low prices, something's obviously got to give. Don't blame China for the fact that Americans love bargain-shopping.
293 posted on 08/15/2002 11:38:43 PM PDT by AIG
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To: AIG
I agree with you there. LOL. China still worries me though. Nothing much else does, including all this nonesense about the threat of Islam. But the parallels between Nazi Germany and China do. I hope the parallels don't pan out.
294 posted on 08/15/2002 11:41:07 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
Chinese aren't racists. Nor do they seek to invade America. An ocean of difference.
295 posted on 08/15/2002 11:42:51 PM PDT by AIG
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To: AIG
No, the Chinese are not particularly racist, although they are not immune from it. The Nazi's didn't try to invade American either. But the parallel is the unrealistic arrogant juvenile jingoistic nationalism of an emerging power. It worries me because folks that deal with Chinese tell me it is a common attitude - an arrogant belief that China will inherit the earth as the dominant power, and a refusal to deal with nuance and an understanding that in the end the good life is not about any of that. It is all fools gold.
296 posted on 08/15/2002 11:47:14 PM PDT by Torie
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To: frmrda; JohnHuang2
This is loony to me. This has to be disinformation to distract and confuse. The assumptions are very sloppy. For all we know, Dubya's military men are likely planning a special ops to nab Saddam surgically. Bush has never talked about a mass invasion and it wouldn't make sense here. In the Gulf War we had military in Kuwait to expell, here we only want one guy and a mass invasion would be over-kill.
297 posted on 08/15/2002 11:49:49 PM PDT by RJayneJ
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To: Torie
You mistake "jingoistic nationalism" with the natural pride of rising out of Third World conditions. Most formerly Third World countries in Asia are proud of their achievements too. And any objective observer would have to admit that China has economic potential. Given all the anti-China rhetoric in the US for the mere "crime" of going capitalist, it's only natural for Chinese to resist in a nationalistic way about that. That's only human nature.
298 posted on 08/15/2002 11:57:29 PM PDT by AIG
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To: Torie
China may aspire to be a global power and the pride that goes along with that, but the US already has that power and pride and flaunts it in a unilateral way, which is why the US finds itself to be unpopular around the world now.
299 posted on 08/16/2002 12:00:05 AM PDT by AIG
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To: Torie
The world today is far more concerned about America's own "juvenile arrogant jingoistic pride" than any China may exhibit.
300 posted on 08/16/2002 12:01:46 AM PDT by AIG
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