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Top Republicans Break With Bush on Iraq Strategy
The New York Times ^ | 08/16/2002 | TODD S. PURDUM and PATRICK E. TYLER

Posted on 08/15/2002 7:30:56 PM PDT by Pokey78

WASHINGTON, Aug. 15 — Leading Republicans from Congress, the State Department and past administrations have begun to break ranks with President Bush over his administration's high-profile planning for war with Iraq, saying the administration has neither adequately prepared for military action nor made the case that it is needed.

These senior Republicans include former Secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger and Brent Scowcroft, the first President Bush's national security adviser. All say they favor the eventual removal of Saddam Hussein, but some say they are concerned that Mr. Bush is proceeding in a way that risks alienating allies, creating greater instability in the Middle East, and harming long-term American interests. They add that the administration has not shown that Iraq poses an urgent threat to the United States.

At the same time, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, who summoned Mr. Kissinger for a meeting on Tuesday, and his advisers have decided that they should focus international discussion on how Iraq would be governed after Mr. Hussein — not only in an effort to assure a democracy but as a way to outflank administration hawks and slow the rush to war, which many in the department oppose.

"For those of us who don't see an invasion as an article of faith but as simply a policy option, there is a feeling that you need to give great consideration to what comes after, and that unless you're prepared to follow it through, then you shouldn't begin it," one senior administration official involved in foreign policy said today.

In an opinion article published today in The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Scowcroft, who helped build the broad international coalition against Iraq in the Persian Gulf war, warned that "an attack on Iraq at this time would seriously jeopardize, if not destroy, the global counter-terrorist campaign we have undertaken." An attack might provoke Iraq to use chemical or biological weapons in an effort to trigger war between Israel and the Arab world, he said.

His criticism has particular meaning for Mr. Bush because Mr. Scowcroft was virtually a member of the Bush family during the first President Bush's term and has maintained close relations with the former president.

Senator Chuck Hagel, Republican of Nebraska said that Secretary Powell and his deputy, Richard L. Armitage, had recently told President Bush of their concerns about the risks and complexities of a military campaign against Iraq, especially without broad international support. But senior White House and State Department officials said they were unaware of any such meeting.

Also today, Lawrence S. Eagleburger, who was briefly secretary of state for Mr. Bush's father, told ABC News that unless Mr. Hussein "has his hand on a trigger that is for a weapon of mass destruction, and our intelligence is clear, I don't know why we have to do it now, when all our allies are opposed to it."

Last week, Representative Dick Armey, the House majority leader, raised similar concerns.

The comments by Mr. Scowcroft and others in the Republican foreign policy establishment appeared to be a loosely coordinated effort. Mr. Scowcroft first spoke out publicly 10 days ago on the CBS News program "Face the Nation."

In an opinion article published on Monday in The Washington Post, Mr. Kissinger made a long and complex argument about the international complications of any military campaign, writing that American policy "will be judged by how the aftermath of the military operation is handled politically," a statement that seems to play well with the State Department's strategy.

"Military intervention should be attempted only if we are willing to sustain such an effort for however long it is needed," he added. Far from ruling out military intervention, Mr. Kissinger said the challenge was to build a careful case that the threat of proliferation of weapons of mass destruction calls for creation of a new international security framework in which pre-emptive action may sometimes be justified.

Through his office in New York, Mr. Kissinger relayed a message that his meeting with Secretary Powell had been scheduled before the publication of his article and was unrelated. But a State Department official said Secretary Powell had wanted Mr. Kissinger's advice on how to influence administration thinking on both Iraq and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

In The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Scowcroft wrote that if the United States "were seen to be turning our backs" on the Israeli-Palestinian dispute "in order to go after Iraq, there would be an explosion of outrage against us."

He added: "There is a virtual consensus in the world against an attack on Iraq at this time. So long as that sentiment persists, it would require the U.S. to pursue a virtual go-it-alone strategy against Iraq, making any military operations correspondingly more difficult and expensive."

Richard N. Perle, a former Reagan administration official and one of the leading hawks who has been orchestrating an urgent approach to attacking Iraq, said today that Mr. Scowcroft's arguments were misguided and naïve.

"I think Brent just got it wrong," he said by telephone from France. "The failure to take on Saddam after what the president said would produce such a collapse of confidence in the president that it would set back the war on terrorism."

Mr. Perle added, "I think it is naïve to believe that we can produce results in the 50-year-old dispute between the Israelis and the Arabs, and therefore this is an excuse for not taking action."

Senator Hagel, who was among the earliest voices to question Mr. Bush's approach to Iraq, said today that the Central Intelligence Agency had "absolutely no evidence" that Iraq possesses or will soon possess nuclear weapons.

He said he shared Mr. Kissinger's concern that Mr. Bush's policy of pre-emptive strikes at governments armed with weapons of mass destruction could induce India to attack Pakistan and could create the political cover for Israel to expel Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza.

"You can take the country into a war pretty fast," Mr. Hagel said, "but you can't get out as quickly, and the public needs to know what the risks are."

He added, "Maybe Mr. Perle would like to be in the first wave of those who go into Baghdad."

For months, the State Department's approach has been to focus on how to build a government in Iraq.

After meetings here last week involving Iraqi opposition groups and administration officials, one official said today that there was now consensus in the State Department that if more discussion was focused on the challenge of creating a post-Hussein government, "that would start broaching the question of what kind of assistance you are going to need from the international community to assure this structure endures — read between the lines, how long the occupation will have to be."

Such discussions, the official added, would have a sobering effect on the war-planners.


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To: weikel
I suspect its a cover story. I think Bin Laden is an agent for the fundi members of the House of Saud. The House of Saud basically has two groups the Caligula types and the fanatic types.

I know the House of Saud makes stacks of money from the west. I know that the House of Saud has no monetary interest in having a bunch of terrorists gain power. I suspect the only thing these Saudi royals are fanatic about is -- MONEY.

101 posted on 08/15/2002 9:06:24 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
American young soldiers' lives are at stake. Of course, you should listen to your own military's opinion about attacking Iraq.
102 posted on 08/15/2002 9:06:44 PM PDT by AIG
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To: AdA$tra
My bent after 9-11 was to eliminate the Aswan Dam, all of sadaam's installations, the Bekaa valley, Egypt's largest airfield, Syria's airfields, power grid and military bases, the same for Iran and to eliminate Riyadh's power grid and capture back our base there. On day two the question would be asked , again, who wants to dance and who wants to sit down and talk? The dance tune on day three would be more of the same. This is NOT a dove. However, at this time, Iraq is maybe fifth o0n the list of nations actively plotting harm to the United States. China is far and away number one. North Korea is number two. Iran is number three. Egypt and Saudi Arabia share number four. Iraq, Pakistan and various countries in Africa share spot number five. Destroy Sadaam? Sure. In due time friends, in due time. The head pat from Daddy can wait. Until we choke off the hemmorhage of capital, technology and outright military secrets gushing into China , anything we do to Sadaam, with respect to improving the chances that our grandchildren will survive is just 'spitting in the wind'. The Asian hordes overran Western Civilization two thousand years ago. They were dominant for a thousand years. Most of what civilization had developed over the past ten thousand years was destroyed. Another Asian tried the same thing this past century. Now it is the year of Red Dragon Rising; and we fed and poured the fire in the belly of the dragon to be used to incinerate us and our own. Sadaam is an ant on an elephant's ass. What's wrong? No one have the guts to speak up and take action to stand up to China? They stole our most expensive satellite , have infiltrated our research labs and industry and military, crashed our plane then stole everything on it and spit in our eye. Please do not make me listen to haughty words about Sadaam when not a damned thing was done about our Orion. China SWATTED us , and we flinched and took it. Now continue your big talk.
103 posted on 08/15/2002 9:07:07 PM PDT by chemainus
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To: Skwidd
I have been thinking about it for at least 50 seconds, and I still like the idea of taking out Saddam and whipping the arab world around pretty good and pretty soon in order to convert them into frequently loyal allies. Look at how much better the Germans, Japanese and Italians are since we whipped them. It took, and lasted, too.
104 posted on 08/15/2002 9:07:26 PM PDT by mathurine
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To: AIG
needless aggression.

Are you posting from a script, Mohammed?

Or maybe Lee Kwan? Does your embasy know your on the internet?

105 posted on 08/15/2002 9:07:34 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: AIG
Why does it not serve the "interests" of the United States?
106 posted on 08/15/2002 9:08:06 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Right_in_Virginia
You can try to eradicate all you want. I just pointed out that Israel hasn't been that successful. Israel's economy today really is in a shambles. The only part of Israel's economy that's doing well is its arms industry, thanks to China. This money ends up in IDF soldiers' paychecks.
107 posted on 08/15/2002 9:08:29 PM PDT by AIG
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To: Pokey78
That title had me worried.

Top Republicans my a$$.
108 posted on 08/15/2002 9:08:41 PM PDT by Barnacle
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To: AIG
I can't believe you really believe this!!!
"China is perfectly happy that America's reputation is going down the drain in the world today. America can't stop shooting itself in the foot with its needless aggression."
Just try living in China, without benefit of money, or in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and Africa. I daresay all of those animalistic countries INVENTED aggression!
We just fight back, and end it!
109 posted on 08/15/2002 9:08:46 PM PDT by Terridan
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To: dighton
AIG is a China punk. Thats about it. China is opposed to any action against Iraq.

First, they think the US got what it deserved on 9-11.

Second, the same precedent set with Iraq will be used against China. That includes kicking Iraq out of Kuwait, their smaller neighbor.

Thirdly, the two regimes are two peas in a pod, and China will lose influence in the middle east if Saddam is gone. They view Iraq as "keeping America in check" as to influence in the Middle East region.

Numbers one and two are tied together.

"multipolarity" is the theme of the day for China. Thats the underlying thought of all of their doctrines.

AIG is just spouting off what his party teaches him.

110 posted on 08/15/2002 9:09:26 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: FreeReign
They'd be more cooperative if that was the case. Abdullah the ruler of Saudi Arabia( since Fahd is a vegetable) has been consistently anti American.
111 posted on 08/15/2002 9:09:47 PM PDT by weikel
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To: Pokey78
Henry Kissinger a "top Republican"??

Kissinger is NOT only even a mere RINO, but a One-World Government/New World Order hack, and always has been.

This phony over the years has constantly proven to put international interests ahead of the sovereign principle of the Republic of the United States of America. We know what that makes Mr. Kissinger...

112 posted on 08/15/2002 9:10:05 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: sinkspur
I'm not the author. Got this from a friend and just posted it. Seemed very pertinent. Should have had a disclaimer on it sorry but its still the truth and that's the most important thing.
US Army aviation Viet Nam RET (DROSED, sent back to "the world", regained my Civi-status, you know what I mean).
113 posted on 08/15/2002 9:10:55 PM PDT by jonefab
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To: AIG
Because, after all, the Chinese are for themselves, no matter what country they call home?

Bah. Your comment about Warren Buffett is silly. Buffett is not privy to intelligence, and is working the market to his own benefit.

I myself think there is a likelihood of nuclear attacks on major American cities. I have thought that since September 11. I think that our odds for those attacks go down if we remove some of the sources of WMD.

114 posted on 08/15/2002 9:10:57 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: elbucko
Incidentally, China just overtook Japan as the #2 country in the world in terms of the number of people who use the Internet.
115 posted on 08/15/2002 9:11:14 PM PDT by AIG
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To: AIG
"I just pointed out that Israel hasn't been that successful..."

You're not going to like being reminded of this ...but, Isreal is not the United States.

116 posted on 08/15/2002 9:12:01 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: maui_hawaii; AIG
AIG is just spouting off what his party teaches him.

He's in some trouble now, because no one is buying what he's selling.

117 posted on 08/15/2002 9:12:32 PM PDT by dighton
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To: maui_hawaii
Who cares about oil? The world only has a 34 years' supply left anyway. The Middle East's importance because of oil will inevitably decline over the next several decades. US car companies envision two things by the year 2020: 1) China will be the world's biggest car market and 2) most cars will be running on fuel cells.
118 posted on 08/15/2002 9:13:34 PM PDT by AIG
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To: AIG
As a Chinese, I hope America starts a war and gets entangled..

As a Chinese do you know who is Major James H. Howard?

119 posted on 08/15/2002 9:14:36 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: AIG
What makes you so concerned about Iraq? Concern about the loss of American life?
120 posted on 08/15/2002 9:14:42 PM PDT by Torie
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