Top Republicans Break With Bush on Iraq Strategy

The New York Times ^ | 08/16/2002 | TODD S. PURDUM and PATRICK E. TYLER

[FreeReign]

I suspect its a cover story. I think Bin Laden is an agent for the fundi members of the House of Saud. The House of Saud basically has two groups the Caligula types and the fanatic types.

I know the House of Saud makes stacks of money from the west. I know that the House of Saud has no monetary interest in having a bunch of terrorists gain power. I suspect the only thing these Saudi royals are fanatic about is -- MONEY.

[AIG]

American young soldiers' lives are at stake. Of course, you should listen to your own military's opinion about attacking Iraq.

[chemainus]

My bent after 9-11 was to eliminate the Aswan Dam, all of sadaam's installations, the Bekaa valley, Egypt's largest airfield, Syria's airfields, power grid and military bases, the same for Iran and to eliminate Riyadh's power grid and capture back our base there. On day two the question would be asked , again, who wants to dance and who wants to sit down and talk? The dance tune on day three would be more of the same. This is NOT a dove. However, at this time, Iraq is maybe fifth o0n the list of nations actively plotting harm to the United States. China is far and away number one. North Korea is number two. Iran is number three. Egypt and Saudi Arabia share number four. Iraq, Pakistan and various countries in Africa share spot number five. Destroy Sadaam? Sure. In due time friends, in due time. The head pat from Daddy can wait. Until we choke off the hemmorhage of capital, technology and outright military secrets gushing into China , anything we do to Sadaam, with respect to improving the chances that our grandchildren will survive is just 'spitting in the wind'. The Asian hordes overran Western Civilization two thousand years ago. They were dominant for a thousand years. Most of what civilization had developed over the past ten thousand years was destroyed. Another Asian tried the same thing this past century. Now it is the year of Red Dragon Rising; and we fed and poured the fire in the belly of the dragon to be used to incinerate us and our own. Sadaam is an ant on an elephant's ass. What's wrong? No one have the guts to speak up and take action to stand up to China? They stole our most expensive satellite , have infiltrated our research labs and industry and military, crashed our plane then stole everything on it and spit in our eye. Please do not make me listen to haughty words about Sadaam when not a damned thing was done about our Orion. China SWATTED us , and we flinched and took it. Now continue your big talk.

[mathurine]

I have been thinking about it for at least 50 seconds, and I still like the idea of taking out Saddam and whipping the arab world around pretty good and pretty soon in order to convert them into frequently loyal allies. Look at how much better the Germans, Japanese and Italians are since we whipped them. It took, and lasted, too.

[elbucko]

needless aggression.

Are you posting from a script, Mohammed?

Or maybe Lee Kwan? Does your embasy know your on the internet?

[Texasforever]

Why does it not serve the "interests" of the United States?

[AIG]

You can try to eradicate all you want. I just pointed out that Israel hasn't been that successful. Israel's economy today really is in a shambles. The only part of Israel's economy that's doing well is its arms industry, thanks to China. This money ends up in IDF soldiers' paychecks.

[Barnacle]

That title had me worried.

Top Republicans my a$$.

[Terridan]

I can't believe you really believe this!!!
"China is perfectly happy that America's reputation is going down the drain in the world today. America can't stop shooting itself in the foot with its needless aggression."
Just try living in China, without benefit of money, or in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and Africa. I daresay all of those animalistic countries INVENTED aggression!
We just fight back, and end it!

[maui_hawaii]

AIG is a China punk. Thats about it. China is opposed to any action against Iraq.

First, they think the US got what it deserved on 9-11.

Second, the same precedent set with Iraq will be used against China. That includes kicking Iraq out of Kuwait, their smaller neighbor.

Thirdly, the two regimes are two peas in a pod, and China will lose influence in the middle east if Saddam is gone. They view Iraq as "keeping America in check" as to influence in the Middle East region.

Numbers one and two are tied together.

"multipolarity" is the theme of the day for China. Thats the underlying thought of all of their doctrines.

AIG is just spouting off what his party teaches him.

[weikel]

They'd be more cooperative if that was the case. Abdullah the ruler of Saudi Arabia( since Fahd is a vegetable) has been consistently anti American.

[F16Fighter]

Henry Kissinger a "top Republican"??

Kissinger is NOT only even a mere RINO, but a One-World Government/New World Order hack, and always has been.

This phony over the years has constantly proven to put international interests ahead of the sovereign principle of the Republic of the United States of America. We know what that makes Mr. Kissinger...

[jonefab]

I'm not the author. Got this from a friend and just posted it. Seemed very pertinent. Should have had a disclaimer on it sorry but its still the truth and that's the most important thing.
US Army aviation Viet Nam RET (DROSED, sent back to "the world", regained my Civi-status, you know what I mean).

[Miss Marple]

Because, after all, the Chinese are for themselves, no matter what country they call home?

Bah. Your comment about Warren Buffett is silly. Buffett is not privy to intelligence, and is working the market to his own benefit.

I myself think there is a likelihood of nuclear attacks on major American cities. I have thought that since September 11. I think that our odds for those attacks go down if we remove some of the sources of WMD.

[AIG]

Incidentally, China just overtook Japan as the #2 country in the world in terms of the number of people who use the Internet.

[Right_in_Virginia]

"I just pointed out that Israel hasn't been that successful..."

You're not going to like being reminded of this ...but, Isreal is not the United States.

[dighton]

AIG is just spouting off what his party teaches him.

He's in some trouble now, because no one is buying what he's selling.

[AIG]

Who cares about oil? The world only has a 34 years' supply left anyway. The Middle East's importance because of oil will inevitably decline over the next several decades. US car companies envision two things by the year 2020: 1) China will be the world's biggest car market and 2) most cars will be running on fuel cells.

[elbucko]

As a Chinese, I hope America starts a war and gets entangled..

As a Chinese do you know who is Major James H. Howard?

[Torie]

What makes you so concerned about Iraq? Concern about the loss of American life?