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How Stable Is America?
FredonEverything.net ^ | 8/09/02 | Fred Reed

Posted on 08/15/2002 6:32:48 PM PDT by M 91 u2 K

How stable, one may wonder, is the United States?

The answer would seem to be, "Exceedingly." The country has had no coups, attempted coups, or revolutions. Our only civil war came over a century ago. Political stability has contributed mightily to American success. We have avoided the internal wars, shifting governments, and dictators that have plagued the political adolescents of Europe.

Yet we are not a happy country. Below the surface lie anger and hostility that seem to have no resolution. Strains exist that we do not, may not, talk about. We hide these problems, and hide from them, hoping they will go away. Perhaps they will. Perhaps they won't.

The odds, I suppose, are against an explosion. It is as hard to imagine violent change in the United States as it was, fifteen years ago, to imagine that the Soviet Union would spontaneously disassemble. (Part of Marxist theory was that government would one day wither away. It did.) On the other hand, the country seems to me to be quietly, growingly-angry.

I wonder.

If, as a debating exercise, I were to argue for the possibility of cataclysmic upheaval, of race war, revolution, a coup, or widespread civil unrest, I would make my case as follows:

Our problems are grave. For example, we have a black minority of about thirteen percent that seethes with anger, does not seem to be assimilating, and grows in numbers. Blacks quietly gain political control of more and more cities. While their standard of living rises, their degree of allegiance to the larger society does not.

We have an equally large and growing Latino minority. To what extent Latinos will assimilate is not clear. Their children do poorly in school, which does not bode well. If they turn into a self-aware group in opposition to white America, into brown blacks, we will face a quarter of the population, and rising, hostile to the mainstream (and in all likelihood hostile to each other).

Whites back passively away, frightened in their own country, moving deeper into the suburbs, acceding to every demand. The others advance, knowing that the advantage is theirs. But it may be that this just raises the stakes should conflict come.

The racial divide is by itself every bit enough to cause disaster.

Profound division, and profound anger, permeate white America itself. Some of it follows the fault lines of partisan politics, but partakes of something deeper. It is not politics as usual. The antagonism is between the traditionally American and what for brevity may be called the politically correct. It verges on hatred.

The dispute among whites is not about details, not about the fine tuning of this or that policy. At stake are crucial, emotionally explosive matters such as the de-Christianization of the country, the ever-tightening governmental control of behavior, social decay, the replacement of merit by racial and sexual patronage, the forced mixing of racial and ethnic minorities that don't want to mix, a Latino invasion resented intensely by a majority of whites, and the relentless imposition of values abominated by the traditional America.

And there is the curious hostility between men and women. It won't erupt, but it aggravates tension. When instincts are thwarted, the limbic temperature rises. Generalized anger has a way, sooner or later, of focusing itself.

Historically, America's elastic democracy has prevented revolt by yielding to pressure. If women decided they wanted to major in chemical engineering, the country said, fine, sign here. Assimilation has been a chief instrument. If the Irish were held in disregard in one generation, in the next they moved up, blended, became generic Americans, and ceased being resentful or resented.

But-are today's resentments thus eradicable? What happens when groups don't assimilate, when nonnegotiable values of one group are inherently incompatible with those of another group?

Mechanisms of change appear to be lacking. We have two essentially identical political parties that refuse to address the aforementioned crucial questions: immigration, race, etc. Instead of looking for solutions, we hold the lid on by compulsion and censorship. It could prove dangerous. Think of Yugoslavia.

By stifling dissent, are we, as many think, giving our problems time to disappear? Or are we coiling a spring?

Further, we have cornered ourselves. The increasing centralization of government, and the increasing scope of its jurisdiction, make retreat impossible. In 1900 a town in Montana could run its schools as it liked. Washington and New York had neither the manpower, the communications, nor the interest to intervene. True, Montanans then probably had even less influence over Washington than they do now. Crucially, Washington had less over them.

Today remote bureaucracies monitor small towns and their schools, their textbooks, the racial and sexual ratios and failure rates in Algebra II, prescribe what they may and may not teach, what morality must be instilled, whether people can say "One nation under God," and send federal marshals should transgression occur.

Just as Tito held the lid down on Yugoslavia, the metagovernment prevents explosion (metagovernment being the curious amalgam of the media, academia, and their allies of which the federal government is the instrument). But Tito is never immortal. Then what?

Such are our domestic circumstances. Abroad, we face further stresses that we equally fail to resolve.

We find ourselves in a partial, half-noticed war with, depending on your degree of realism, terrorism or Islam. The country suffered a devastating attack in New York. So far, we have done essentially nothing about it. We now live in anxious expectation of further devastation. The government, flaccid abroad, reacts chiefly against Americans. Surveillance of the population grows, police powers advance, and governmental accountability diminishes.

The importance of the conflict with Islam is not easily calculated nor its consequences predicted. Will there be further attacks a la New York? A government unable to protect the country, widely detested at home, and respected nowhere is not a recipe for fealty. We are getting there. Institutions fall when they cease to work, or when people believe that they have ceased to work.

What could provoke-what? A coup? Revolution? Nothing that I can imagine. The control of communications is too great, the passivity of the white population near absolute. People have enough to eat and five hundred cable channels. The military is safely emasculated.

The likelihood, I think, is that we will muddle on, dissatisfied but not too dissatisfied, turning into whatever we are turning into, learning obedience. Yet the tension is there. Remember the LA riots. Nothing lasts forever, not even America. A fascinating question is when and how it will stop lasting.


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To: Brush_Your_Teeth
How long have these bozos been talking about racewar?

There were some pretty bad racewars in the 1960s but they've been controlled with massive government spending. The 1960s saw a lot of cities burned but that was before the welfare system became so huge. It will be really bad if Socialism collapses.

81 posted on 08/15/2002 10:40:22 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Texasforever
Did you read the article? We are postulating a hypothetical socialist state in America in the future, not the current situation.
82 posted on 08/15/2002 10:41:24 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: FITZ
The social cohesion we had in the 1930s is long gone. A similar economic depression today would result in social chaos and near anarchy.
83 posted on 08/15/2002 10:43:01 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: FITZ
It's not race it's culture --the way people think. Some of the best brightest Conservatives are the Black Conservatives. Only they can save their co-blacks and maybe all of us. For now most people accept Socialism because they know the minute the government social programs are cut there will be riots, looting, and burning of cities throughout the US.

Culture, not race is the defining factor. However, race and culture are quite mixed, especially in America.

84 posted on 08/15/2002 10:44:51 PM PDT by rmlew
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To: Travis McGee
I live in San Diego and I can see Mexico from the beach.

That's where I visited a couple years ago. I have family in San Diego.

85 posted on 08/15/2002 10:48:00 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Travis McGee
P.S. don't you ever want to move the hell out of California?
86 posted on 08/15/2002 10:48:26 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: rmlew
True. Ironically after all the forced government busing and integration there are larger ratios of unassimilated blacks than there were before Civil Rights and of course extremely high immigration is bringing in millions of unassimilated foreigners.
87 posted on 08/15/2002 10:49:14 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: MinorityRepublican
Every damn day. It's a long story.
88 posted on 08/15/2002 10:50:10 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Black Agnes
"Not so now, most of our blue collar manufacturing jobs are gone. 100 years ago there WAS no welfare or food stamps. They either 'made it' or they went home. Now they just stay and go on welfare/food stamps. Not good."


I agree Agnes. Very well put.
89 posted on 08/15/2002 10:50:29 PM PDT by 4America
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To: rmlew
Culture, not race is the defining factor. However, race and culture are quite mixed, especially in America.

That's right, I am very mixed, I have European, African, and American Indian blood.

Race doesn't matter as much as it used to, it's class rather.

Although race would matter in desperate slums in inner city.

90 posted on 08/15/2002 10:50:54 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Travis McGee
It would be very difficult to do but it would be a better solution than CW2. Hopefully if and when the time comes leadership on both sides will come to this realization.
91 posted on 08/15/2002 10:51:46 PM PDT by mysonsfuture
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To: FITZ
"It's not race it's culture --the way people think. Some of the best brightest Conservatives are the Black Conservatives. Only they can save their co-blacks and maybe all of us. For now most people accept Socialism because they know the minute the government social programs are cut there will be riots, looting, and burning of cities throughout the US"

BUMP!!!
92 posted on 08/15/2002 10:52:17 PM PDT by 4America
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To: Joe Hadenuf
"And with open borders more and more people are comming in being welcomed by race baiting DemonCats,a Turner Diary future seems to wait America."

Bttt!!
93 posted on 08/15/2002 10:54:16 PM PDT by 4America
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To: Travis McGee
Our Generals and Admirals are fat Mandarins who love their "private" mansions, limos, drivers, lackies and so on. They are by and large as greedy and corrupt as our bishops. As long as they can keep their perks, they will gladly send troops on house to house gun sweeps.

While that is true, the grunts would not support this marxist president in the scenario. I remember reading a poll somewhere that the majority of Marines would never seize weapons from innocent, average American citizens. So that's why the UN would have to disarm the gun owners.

Also, this military general, Franco might one of the leaders in the military. You never know, after all there's been great leaders in desperate times, such as Winston Churchill during the battle of Britian.

The battle will come from the ten million deer rifle army, firing one bullet at a time from 400 yards. There is no way on earth to put a 500 yard security perimeter around all of the sold out corrupt politicos and bureaucratas who would be running the new socialist America while disregarding the Constitution and BOR.

Interesting, but who would lead this diverse, ten million deer rifle army?

94 posted on 08/15/2002 10:58:42 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
The sides will be split between leftists aganist rightists

What about those that do not cast themselves in those narrow terms? Where are they while this war is raging? I am a “rightest” however I am also pretty happy with this country. There are major problems yes but as any form of government ages it starts to show its warts. The fact is that governments that allow the vote of the citizens will eventually end up in socialism. It will limp along until the point that the money runs out. It will have nothing to do with politics or ideology it will be the point that the takers so outnumber the givers that the givers join the takers and then the cycle will start over. Each generation that takes power has a choice and it is their choice alone. They either take the baton that the preceding generation passes or they decide they want to try something different.

95 posted on 08/15/2002 11:02:19 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: MinorityRepublican
It's called "leaderless resistance". The days of playing Robin Hood in the forest are long over in the day of FLIR equipped UAVs and gunships. Any group will be compromised and taken out. The "army" in this scenario consists of millions of Americans who have had enough, know who the enemy is, and go out with their .270s one man at a time.
96 posted on 08/15/2002 11:02:27 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Texasforever
Describe the "hell" we are in.

We're get there soon enough. I fear that it is inevitable, but we might get lucky.

Maybe this futuristic Orwellian socialist utopia (or hell) will not happen during our lifetimes.

97 posted on 08/15/2002 11:02:47 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Texasforever
"You may not be interested in war, but war is very interested in you!"

~~Leon Trotsky, Soviet Red Army commander during the Russian Revolution and Civil War.

99 posted on 08/15/2002 11:05:22 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
"You may not be interested in war, but war is very interested in you!"

Yes and he found out via a very serious head wound that the "revolution" usually eats its own. This nations founding was a a unique exception to that rule but given the circumstances posited in this article, there can only emerge a dictatorship of the right or the left should the balloon actually go up.

100 posted on 08/15/2002 11:12:55 PM PDT by Texasforever
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