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How Stable Is America?
FredonEverything.net ^ | 8/09/02 | Fred Reed

Posted on 08/15/2002 6:32:48 PM PDT by M 91 u2 K

How stable, one may wonder, is the United States?

The answer would seem to be, "Exceedingly." The country has had no coups, attempted coups, or revolutions. Our only civil war came over a century ago. Political stability has contributed mightily to American success. We have avoided the internal wars, shifting governments, and dictators that have plagued the political adolescents of Europe.

Yet we are not a happy country. Below the surface lie anger and hostility that seem to have no resolution. Strains exist that we do not, may not, talk about. We hide these problems, and hide from them, hoping they will go away. Perhaps they will. Perhaps they won't.

The odds, I suppose, are against an explosion. It is as hard to imagine violent change in the United States as it was, fifteen years ago, to imagine that the Soviet Union would spontaneously disassemble. (Part of Marxist theory was that government would one day wither away. It did.) On the other hand, the country seems to me to be quietly, growingly-angry.

I wonder.

If, as a debating exercise, I were to argue for the possibility of cataclysmic upheaval, of race war, revolution, a coup, or widespread civil unrest, I would make my case as follows:

Our problems are grave. For example, we have a black minority of about thirteen percent that seethes with anger, does not seem to be assimilating, and grows in numbers. Blacks quietly gain political control of more and more cities. While their standard of living rises, their degree of allegiance to the larger society does not.

We have an equally large and growing Latino minority. To what extent Latinos will assimilate is not clear. Their children do poorly in school, which does not bode well. If they turn into a self-aware group in opposition to white America, into brown blacks, we will face a quarter of the population, and rising, hostile to the mainstream (and in all likelihood hostile to each other).

Whites back passively away, frightened in their own country, moving deeper into the suburbs, acceding to every demand. The others advance, knowing that the advantage is theirs. But it may be that this just raises the stakes should conflict come.

The racial divide is by itself every bit enough to cause disaster.

Profound division, and profound anger, permeate white America itself. Some of it follows the fault lines of partisan politics, but partakes of something deeper. It is not politics as usual. The antagonism is between the traditionally American and what for brevity may be called the politically correct. It verges on hatred.

The dispute among whites is not about details, not about the fine tuning of this or that policy. At stake are crucial, emotionally explosive matters such as the de-Christianization of the country, the ever-tightening governmental control of behavior, social decay, the replacement of merit by racial and sexual patronage, the forced mixing of racial and ethnic minorities that don't want to mix, a Latino invasion resented intensely by a majority of whites, and the relentless imposition of values abominated by the traditional America.

And there is the curious hostility between men and women. It won't erupt, but it aggravates tension. When instincts are thwarted, the limbic temperature rises. Generalized anger has a way, sooner or later, of focusing itself.

Historically, America's elastic democracy has prevented revolt by yielding to pressure. If women decided they wanted to major in chemical engineering, the country said, fine, sign here. Assimilation has been a chief instrument. If the Irish were held in disregard in one generation, in the next they moved up, blended, became generic Americans, and ceased being resentful or resented.

But-are today's resentments thus eradicable? What happens when groups don't assimilate, when nonnegotiable values of one group are inherently incompatible with those of another group?

Mechanisms of change appear to be lacking. We have two essentially identical political parties that refuse to address the aforementioned crucial questions: immigration, race, etc. Instead of looking for solutions, we hold the lid on by compulsion and censorship. It could prove dangerous. Think of Yugoslavia.

By stifling dissent, are we, as many think, giving our problems time to disappear? Or are we coiling a spring?

Further, we have cornered ourselves. The increasing centralization of government, and the increasing scope of its jurisdiction, make retreat impossible. In 1900 a town in Montana could run its schools as it liked. Washington and New York had neither the manpower, the communications, nor the interest to intervene. True, Montanans then probably had even less influence over Washington than they do now. Crucially, Washington had less over them.

Today remote bureaucracies monitor small towns and their schools, their textbooks, the racial and sexual ratios and failure rates in Algebra II, prescribe what they may and may not teach, what morality must be instilled, whether people can say "One nation under God," and send federal marshals should transgression occur.

Just as Tito held the lid down on Yugoslavia, the metagovernment prevents explosion (metagovernment being the curious amalgam of the media, academia, and their allies of which the federal government is the instrument). But Tito is never immortal. Then what?

Such are our domestic circumstances. Abroad, we face further stresses that we equally fail to resolve.

We find ourselves in a partial, half-noticed war with, depending on your degree of realism, terrorism or Islam. The country suffered a devastating attack in New York. So far, we have done essentially nothing about it. We now live in anxious expectation of further devastation. The government, flaccid abroad, reacts chiefly against Americans. Surveillance of the population grows, police powers advance, and governmental accountability diminishes.

The importance of the conflict with Islam is not easily calculated nor its consequences predicted. Will there be further attacks a la New York? A government unable to protect the country, widely detested at home, and respected nowhere is not a recipe for fealty. We are getting there. Institutions fall when they cease to work, or when people believe that they have ceased to work.

What could provoke-what? A coup? Revolution? Nothing that I can imagine. The control of communications is too great, the passivity of the white population near absolute. People have enough to eat and five hundred cable channels. The military is safely emasculated.

The likelihood, I think, is that we will muddle on, dissatisfied but not too dissatisfied, turning into whatever we are turning into, learning obedience. Yet the tension is there. Remember the LA riots. Nothing lasts forever, not even America. A fascinating question is when and how it will stop lasting.


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To: willyone
With regret, I agree......
41 posted on 08/15/2002 9:11:17 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Travis McGee
I don't know how seccession could work either, unless it's county by county, but that probably wouldn't work. Maybe a neat dividing line North-South and enforced deportation to your zone. Oh boy, that's gonna get ugly.
42 posted on 08/15/2002 9:12:06 PM PDT by Brett66
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To: Travis McGee
Most of the riots I've heard about stopped when the shelves were emptied. After the stores were already looted, there wasn't a reason to riot.
I don't think a black/white Civil War will ever happen. The middle class are fairly satisfied and the lower incomes want the checks to keep rolling in.
What may start a major battle in the U.S. would be a nuke going off somewhere and displaced people pouring into another part of the country and not being wanted.
Another scenario would be something big in Mexico where the whole population heads north. How would we stop a massive civilan invasion?
43 posted on 08/15/2002 9:13:50 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: BuddhaBoy
"Unless something along the lines of 'Atlas Scrugged' happens"

Is that you, Lester?

--Boris

44 posted on 08/15/2002 9:17:16 PM PDT by boris
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To: M 91 u2 K
The writer here describes specific areas of conflict very well, but fails to ask who creates this conflict, and why. He could start by realizing we didn't get where we are by accident.
45 posted on 08/15/2002 9:19:47 PM PDT by babylonian
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To: Travis McGee
But I would not want to live near a racial fault line in a big city, and I especially would not want to be a white or asian living in or near a large concentration of blacks or hispanics.

I wouldn't like to live near a racial AND class fault but if things broke down, living with Middle class blacks or Hispanics wouldn't be bad I don't think ---and living where I live with a very large concentration of Hispanics, I'd choose to live by the colonia Mexicans over the government housing project Mexicans any day.

I could be wrong but I think when you look at violence in high schools and middle schools, you can get a good indication of how things would break down.

46 posted on 08/15/2002 9:21:23 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Shooter 2.5
Another scenario would be something big in Mexico where the whole population heads north. How would we stop a massive civilan invasion?

I think we're already in the midst of that.

47 posted on 08/15/2002 9:22:30 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: M 91 u2 K
I forgot to mention something that may create a little insight to this article. The author says that we aren't a happy country.
I have news for everyone. I agree. Our policy making population is composed of 50 year old midlife crisis babies.
Our 401K's are non-existant. We were supposed to do something with our lives and this author is wondering if a Civil War is going to break out.
Is the point of the nation going to war with itself reason to give this author a a purpose to his life?
What this guy should do is strap on a gun, go to the range when it's hot, cold, rainy, foggy, etc. and get it out of his system. At least he can learn a skill while he's doing it.
48 posted on 08/15/2002 9:23:58 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: rmlew
Ezra Taft Benson proposed more or less that minorities be provided with well-heated public toilets and they would be docile. He was criticized for such utterances and left the government to run the Mormons. Maybe he was right, though. Would port-a-potties and hot water bottles suffice?
49 posted on 08/15/2002 9:25:20 PM PDT by mathurine
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To: FITZ
Yes. I'm just waiting for a green flag to go down and the checkered flag to be in some place like Maine.
50 posted on 08/15/2002 9:26:38 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: spodefly
"ten million deer rifle army" -- Love that! Did you come up with that one? Can I get a shoulder patch or a decal or something?

Staying anonymous would probably be a VERY valuable asset for we soldiers in that army. We'll have to make it a secret handshake and some really cool dance moves. ;^)

51 posted on 08/15/2002 9:29:17 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Travis McGee
The SW United States is being conquered by Mexico without opposition in such a way that the de facto foreign county will have power to extract money from the rest of the country through taxation. Much of our industrial and economic base is being exported. The nuclear family is decaying as an institution together with the emergence of a 1/3 illegitimacy rate. There is no longer any predominent adhesion through cultural values. The trend from the White House is obligation of servitude to correcting the consequences of corruption, stubidity, and superstition in other countries. We are losing against a world-wide religious war.

The United States of America is simply dissolving into nothing without significant conflict.

52 posted on 08/15/2002 9:31:40 PM PDT by RLK
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To: M 91 u2 K
Didn't Nikita say
that we would
crumble from within?

53 posted on 08/15/2002 9:40:09 PM PDT by Consort
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To: Shooter 2.5
Yes --when you realize that somewhere between 1 out of 10 and 1 out of 5 Mexicans is already in the US and they can all use family reunification to bring in dozens more ---they've only got to bring in between 4 to 9 each and the whole country will be here.
54 posted on 08/15/2002 9:41:14 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Brett66
That "enforced deportation" bit usually ends up in ethnic cleansing and truck rides to mass graves.

Think of Bosnia X 1,000.

55 posted on 08/15/2002 9:59:13 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: spodefly
Yep, "the ten million deer rifle army" is mine, as is "BLOAT".

But the ten million deer rifle army has nothing to do with paramilitary so-called militias. The ten million deer rifle army, if it is ever in action, will fight in units of one or two, in single shot engagements at long range.

56 posted on 08/15/2002 10:02:54 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Shooter 2.5
If the power stays off due to a successful terrorist infrastructure attack, the looting will not stop. Hungry looters will not stop at the empty Safeway.

The Mexican invasion IS underway. In 15 years the American Southwest is going to be "Big Kosovo" with the new majority demanding local rule, all hispanic police forces, Spanish as the primary language etc.

57 posted on 08/15/2002 10:06:50 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: FITZ
I agree. Middle class minorities living in middle class white areas will not have a problem or be a problem.

Middle class whites and asians living near government projects will be in great danger if the lights go out and stay out for any period of time.

58 posted on 08/15/2002 10:10:13 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
An American CW2 would look more like the Spanish Civil War of the 1930s, or the recent Balkan wars.

I agree. Let's say there is a democratic president. Alright, he or she is an outright marxist, the country literally goes to hell. So one of the military generals seize power in a coup in order to defend the "constitution".

The sides will be split between leftists aganist rightists, and since liberals do not possess many arms, and that the military is backing this general, so guess who will win the Civil War II? Yep, just like Franco was able to win in Spain.

But the improverished underclass broke out large-scale riots in all of the American cities, and there is nothing but chaos, literally.

So the "fascists" finally won the war, order is fully restored, and the constitution is respected once again.

For the time being, that is.

59 posted on 08/15/2002 10:10:59 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Shooter 2.5
I think Fred Reed does a lot of shooting already. He's just trying to shine a light into the future to see danger areas that the perceptive might want to avoid.
60 posted on 08/15/2002 10:12:21 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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