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To: Ohioan
Here's the key right here:

For a start, how about pride in history? Do you really think that a school that has a 30% Mexican minority--or anything close to it, given the current dispensation to be "politically correct" among "educators,"

It's not the Mexicans' fault. It's the PC dipsh!ts. Don't blame the Mexicans for something they're not doing. As I've said repeatedly, the Mexicans were instrumental in getting EASL vaquished in AZ, they hated it. They wanted their kids to be treated like American kids. They didn't want any kind of Mexican oriented history classes, they didn't want them to learn English in a slowed down course, they just plain didn't want anything special. So yes. I do think... no I know with absolute certainty that we can have schools that are 30% Mexican and not give up anything. I went to a school that was 40% Jewish and the only thing we "gave up" was teachers scheduled tests around Jewish holidays. If there are moron PC dipsticks trying to screw up the curriculum "for the Mexicans" shut them down. Blame the PC dipstick, not the Mexicans. If you actually read what I said I noted that we would have to direct people on where to live. It was a hypothetical situation to outline the fact that there is plenty of room in this country and it is physically possible (though psychologically unlikely) to give everyone huge lots with no neighbors and not give up any food supply or make people live in untenable areas (though if you note where people do live the definition of untenable area gets pretty miniscule, there's a couple that lives at the bottom of Grand Canyon, groceries are two day trip involving a 12 mile hike and a helicopter trip). Just because people are drawn to a particular area doesn't mean the nation is overcrowded. That area of the nation might be, but the nation as a whole isn't. And anybody living in one of these areas and bitching about the overcrowding needs to shut up. If you live in one of America's major metro-complexes, especially the ones back east where they still built the European way, you're going to be living in a crowd. Major metro-complex= crowd. I knew that when I was 8. If you don't want to live in a crowd don't live in a major metro-complex. In a major metro-complex learn to love crowds. One of the great guessing games coming up to census 2000 was would Wyoming maintain statehood, the numbers were showing they could have a low enough population to be downgraded to a territory (which has the added bonus of making the residents immune to federal taxation). They stayed above the line though. But there's still a whole lot of nothing out there to live in for people that want wide open spaces.

221 posted on 08/17/2002 12:36:29 PM PDT by discostu
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To: discostu
One of the great guessing games coming up to census 2000 was would Wyoming maintain statehood, the numbers were showing they could have a low enough population to be downgraded to a territory (which has the added bonus of making the residents immune to federal taxation).

I didn't know that a state had to have a certain number of people. This would seem odd, given that many of the states out West were much more sparsely populated a few decades ago, or even a century ago, than they are now. Do you have a reference I can look at? Thanks much.

223 posted on 08/17/2002 12:52:39 PM PDT by AM2000
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To: discostu
They wanted their kids to be treated like American kids.

If they did the bilingual classrooms would be empty. A very few do fight having their kids placed in these programs but at the school my kids attend it's already one-to-one English versus Spanish classrooms. Bilingual means they will be taught all subjects in Spanish. One third of the population here doesn't speak English.

228 posted on 08/17/2002 4:38:17 PM PDT by FITZ
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