[DaGman]

You are either totally naive or a member of TIPS. It seems like it wasn't that long ago that there were conservative postings here and on other sites expecting the very same things that Ashcroft is doing to be done by Clinton et al. Paranoia was rampant pre-Y2K.

How ironic that its the conservatives who are now the ones willing and wanting to inter American citizens and unconstitutionally stripping them of their God given rights.

Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?

[Recovering_Democrat]

I'm not naive and I'm not a "member of TIPS" per se, though all Americans should want to participate in a plan that will rid us of the terrorists within.

I am, however, smart enough to realize that civil "rights" and "liberties" have routinely been suspended in various ways during war time---and they've always been restored. Always.

I'm glad America wasn't terrified of the government during WW2--during an admittedly liberal administration. After all, FDR and his crowd rationed food, raw materials, and consumer goods like shoes and gasoline! Such rationing, a restriction of civil freedoms if ever there was one, was NECESSARY FOR VICTORY.

If many of you were around then, I shudder to think how happy the ENEMY would've been--you'd be saying, "Dammit, Roosevelt, you can't tell me what to buy and when!! Nazi Schmazi! This is my FREEDOM!"

Oh, btw, for those of you keeping score: once the war was over, the rationing was stopped.