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VANITY -- Best version of Linux? Apache? Perl?
08/13/2002 | by Lazamataz

Posted on 08/13/2002 6:14:11 PM PDT by Lazamataz

I'm putting together a Linux box. Want to run Apache and maybe a perl interpreter. Does anyone have a suggestion as to the best version of Linux? Where do I go for that best version? How about Apache? What is the best perl development environment?

Keeping in mind, of course, that Free is Good.


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To: Incorrigible
I recommend you stick with Microsoft. Sooner or later the above will be true!

Bwahahaha.. M$ conforming to the GPL license? I don't think so. BillCo's avarice wouldn't stand for it.

81 posted on 08/13/2002 9:38:14 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Lazamataz
It has a TSENG LABS ET/4000 W32.

COMPATABLE according to RedHat.

Laz, I installed RedHat 7.3 as a duel boot on my PII 300 box over the weekend. As a newbie to Linux as a desktop, I am impressed with the RedHat pkg. I downloaded the 3 disk images and burned the disks here for FREE.

Last year I purchased Suse Linux and tried it. I think the RedHat is better. One thing I really like with the RedHat distro is when using the Gnome GUI there is a automatic check for any patches available. Absolutely painless to download+install patches.

82 posted on 08/13/2002 9:41:51 PM PDT by Mr_Magoo
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To: AAABEST
Practical? Well it kinda depends. I find it to be quite practical for just about anything I want to do but games. Since I don't play games, that isn't really an issue with me. I like having just about any kind of program I might want to use all right there waiting for me to invoke it.

If you want to run a webserver, you can do that. If you want office-type apps, there are plenty to choose from. I just downloaded the open office package, and find that it does much more than I even need, and will happily import most MS docs unless they have weird active-x controls in them.

There are more text editors available in the open source world than you can shake a stick at. I like 'vi', but your mileage may vary.

For mail, you again have more choices than you can shake a stick at.

If you have a PIM (palm-os device), you should be able to sync up to it without difficulties.

I think I have 7 web browsers installed, but I pretty much use Mozilla exclusively. It just plain works with very little muss or fuss.

I spend a lot more time tinkering on my system than is really necessesary, because I'm a unix guy by profession. I'm pretty sure though, given the robustness of modern linux distros, that just about anyone can install it and make it work for them with less fuss than I've seen them experience on windows.

FOr newbies, it takes a bit of a change of paradigm. Slashes lean the proper way, rather than the backwards way used in Redmond.

One of these days I'm going to talk my mother into letting me wipe her box out and install linux on it. That will be a true test for the software if there ever was one!

83 posted on 08/13/2002 10:42:08 PM PDT by zeugma
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To: Lazamataz
RedHat 7.3 is OK. It has some bugs out of the box (eg ftp sometimes fails for large file transfers, some NFS problems, etc.). See the RedHat gnats bug database. You can get patches from them for some bugs. I am more a BSD type, and do Linux for the $$$. I have found BSD based systems tend to be consistently less buggy and also more consistent internally and in the systems interfaces and Internet networking arenas. Both Linux and FreeBSD don't scale well-- internally they tend to use linked lists where hash tables would be more appropriate. Linux seems to be eclipsing BSD these days in the firewall area (iptables) and SMP. FreeBSD tends to be the choice of proprietary Internet appliances, probably because of less restrictive licensing considerations and more stable networking implementation.

RedHat Linux 7.3 came up rather easily (about 1 hour) on my 3 homebuilt P4s. To play with the customization and modify via source code changes one needs to know about RPMs, which seems to be somewhat peculiar to Linux at this time. There is a RPM book out (forgot title) which gives you about 80% of what one would really want to know about RPMs. For setting up a server one tends to go outside the normal RH distribution and on the net (eg for wu-ftpd).

Hardcore Linux devotees prefer Gnome over KDE. I have tried both and both are buggy, with KDE being noticeably worse to the point of being (from my point of view) unreliable for everyday use. Gnome is better. This illustrates the principle that you generally want to follow the prejudices of the Linux hackers when presented with choices within Linux, since they tend to maintain the stuff they prefer better than the stuff they don't like. Mozilla is your basic mail interface (but I prefer BSD mail for transparency and simplicity over the visually oriented GUI cr*d).

Get a low end ATI Rage for the video card, it seems to be somewhat the defacto standard for Linux. If you like to listen to music and you are running an x86 with builtin sound device on the motherboard and RH 7.3, you'll need an auxiliary PCI sound card since RH 7.3 Linux doesn't recognize the motherboard sound device.

RedHat is trying to attract "Enterprise" class business and is succeeding here and there (especially in government institutions which have to be concerned about MicroSludge audits and associated formalities). My impression is that RedHat is hanging on financially by the skin of their teeth, narrowly avoiding the fate of VA Linux. They might make it financially but in any case the Linux base will carry on in some form or another.

84 posted on 08/13/2002 11:22:18 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: Lazamataz
Couple more minor things. I had an old 100MHz P-I which I tried and tried to bring Linux up on but couldn't (finally fried the motherboard during a hardware swap and ended up junking the poor thing).

Also I still have a couple of boxes running W-98 for convenience and family use; I find that this is relatively straightforward and inexpensive enough rather than dealing with the hassles of a multiple-boot system.

85 posted on 08/13/2002 11:29:47 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: John Robinson; B Knotts; stainlessbanner; TechJunkYard; ShadowAce; Knitebane; AppyPappy; jae471; ...
The Penguin Ping. Want on or off? Just holla!

Got root?


86 posted on 08/14/2002 1:37:16 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: Reweld
Somebody really needs to bitchslap the Linux propeller heads.

I'd love to see you try.

87 posted on 08/14/2002 1:41:33 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: John Robinson

The only choice for me. But newbies beware on this one.

88 posted on 08/14/2002 1:45:30 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: Lazamataz
He's right and wrong. All the numbers you need should be in the manuals accompanying the equipment. We've come a long ways in supporting video equipment and except for the latest and greatest Japanese laptop fresh out of Akihabara you should probably be O.K. Pick the newest distribution of whichever flavor of Linux you choose. You can always downgrade certain packages later if they are too unstable, but the latest version of the distro will have the most video support in the installer.
89 posted on 08/14/2002 2:05:42 AM PDT by altair
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To: Lazamataz
If it was sold in 1994, you very likely have complete support. The biggest problem is with the latest graphics cards where the vendors refuse to release the specs and the driver has to be reverse-engineered. That takes time.
90 posted on 08/14/2002 2:09:50 AM PDT by altair
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To: Lazamataz
Your card is listed as supported in Turbolinux 7, which is fairly dated now.
91 posted on 08/14/2002 2:11:24 AM PDT by altair
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To: John Robinson
Heh.

I see you've answered my question in your usual helpful and technical fashion.

92 posted on 08/14/2002 5:14:59 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: Lazamataz
If this is going to be primarily a server, I'd have to recommend you at least take a look at Debian GNU/Linux.

Although Debian isn't as flashy or end-user-y as some of the other distributions, they have a better security record, and apt-get rocks!

Keeping your system up-to-date is as easy as:

apt-get update
apt-get upgrade

I administer several servers, and they all run Debian.

93 posted on 08/14/2002 6:13:34 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: John Robinson
Personally, I've pretty much given up on Linux on the desktop.

To each his own. I use Linux with KDE 3.0 exclusively for my desktop machines.

My wife also uses Linux, except for certain games. I find Windows limiting and tedious.

94 posted on 08/14/2002 6:19:17 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Lazamataz
Sounds like a Diamond SpeedStar. You know...you might not get much enjoyment out of Linux if you put it on a machine that once belonged to a guy named OGG.

You could build a new Duron based system for about $400.

95 posted on 08/14/2002 6:24:43 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Reweld
Hehehe... that does bring back memories... I used to run a BBS on WWIV software way back when...
96 posted on 08/14/2002 6:24:48 AM PDT by oc-flyfish
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To: B Knotts
you might not get much enjoyment out of Linux if you put it on a machine that once belonged to a guy named OGG.

Unless his last name is Vorbis.

97 posted on 08/14/2002 6:29:22 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: ShadowAce
Ya got me there! :-)
98 posted on 08/14/2002 6:37:39 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Mr_Magoo
I installed RedHat 7.3 as a duel boot on my PII 300 box over the weekend

So, when you boot it, do the operating systems face off at ten paces and fire simultaneously? ;-)

99 posted on 08/14/2002 7:14:11 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek
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To: Chemist_Geek
Windows would crash before the ten paces were reached.....
100 posted on 08/14/2002 7:18:42 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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