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Oregon Firefighters get no help from the weather
Oregon Live/ AP ^ | 13 August 2002 | Jeff Barnard

Posted on 08/13/2002 7:48:43 AM PDT by Grampa Dave

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To: Grampa Dave
You should post a personal vanity under this title: It's the Pseudosemineoconservatives that really get under my skin! Then just have "Your comments please!" Then set back and laugh as the battles commence!:)

LMAO!

I bet that's all I'd have to say too. I'd be on the end of a pitchfork in no time and the 700 post thread would hardly be readable with all the "## comment removed by moderator" lines.

81 posted on 08/13/2002 2:43:03 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: EBUCK
OH! That is just TOO perfect. I'm stealing it, you know.
82 posted on 08/13/2002 2:44:06 PM PDT by AuntB
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To: Benighted; Grampa Dave; EBUCK; Sir_Ed
Check out this reply from Marsh2 from another thread.

One of my fire chief friends was telling me this evening that he is forbidden from fighting wildland fires that start in the New Cascade Siskiyou Monument. He is not permitted to use any mechanized equipment, so the fire grows to 300 feet high by the time it crosses the monument border so he can start to fight it and protect local homes and property. He said that last year a tree was struck by lightning. It burned like a Roman candle. They called the BLM Medford for permission to take a chain saw in and knock it down. The BLM said they had to wait until their expert came out and inspected it. It took two days for the guy to come out and by that time, 7 fires had been started.

83 posted on 08/13/2002 2:48:11 PM PDT by AuntB
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To: AuntB
I thought is was good too. Right click on it for source URL.

EBUCK

84 posted on 08/13/2002 2:49:07 PM PDT by EBUCK
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To: AuntB
Local forests need to be controled by local people! Washington D.C. will never be effective at anything especially something as critical as firefighting.

EBUCK

85 posted on 08/13/2002 3:06:09 PM PDT by EBUCK
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To: AuntB; Grampa Dave
Just returned from Crater Lake; truley one of the natural wonders of the world. Although I didn't treat it as a "Druid Cathedral (Thanks Gramps)" like many granola crunchers, I was impressed once again. The rim drive is open & the panoramas cannot be touched.

Amazingly the basin and the crater are incredibly clear today - first time in awhile. From the west rim drive at seven thousand feet, looking east, you can see huge plumes of smoke from the Tiller complex fire. 40 thousand acres of beautiful forests in the Rogue/South Umpqua divide are raging. You can see the smoke layer forming a thousand feet above the fire and hang there.

Aunt B - Medford looked pretty clear today also - hot as blazes though. 95 in Klamath/ 10? in Medford??

86 posted on 08/13/2002 3:12:48 PM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: madfly
Mega-bump!
87 posted on 08/13/2002 3:13:11 PM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: Grampa Dave
Watermelon Ba$tards bttt!

Stop rural cleansing!

88 posted on 08/13/2002 3:28:33 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Grampa Dave
Grampa, would you consider attending the Axis of Environmental Evil conference and repeating your comments to the UN and attending enviro-liars?

Check out the enviral work alone that the UN's involved in today. We've created a monster.

89 posted on 08/13/2002 4:21:47 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Grampa Dave
It reached 104 in Eugene today...thank God for A/C !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!

90 posted on 08/13/2002 5:17:12 PM PDT by blackie
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To: Grampa Dave
Same date and time but different information: Information Collected @ 08/13/02 @ 6 a.m. PST Location: 26 miles southwest of Grants Pass Lat: 42° 24' 46" Long: 123° 52' 14" Date of Origin: 7/13/02, reported at 12 AM Size: 378,865 acres Cause: Lightning Contained: 26% Containment Date: None Estimated Structures Threatened: Residences: 4,019 Structures Lost: Residences: 4 Commercial: 250 Outbuildings: 8 Resources Threatened: Towns of Cave Junction, Kerby, Selmac, Agness, Gardner Ranch, Brookings and adjacent areas; private inholdings east of McCaleb Ranch; powerline serving Gasquet, Hiouchi, Crescent City, and Klamath; industrial timberlands; Late Successional Reserves; T&E fish, plants and animals; Illinois, Rogue, Smith National Wild and Scenic River, Timberlands, North Fork Smith Botanical Area, Port Orford Cedars Personnel Assigned: 6,383 personnel Injuries: 2 broken ankles, 1 bee sting reaction Equipment Assigned: Crews - Type II: 130; Crews - Type I: 49; Camp Crews: 22 Helicopters: Type I: 15; Type II: 12; Type III:13 Engines: 202 Dozers: 120 Cost to Date: $52,450,000 Fire Behavior: Zone I: The fire continues to advance up Indigo Creek at the north end. It is predicted to reach the Bear Camp Road no earlier than Sunday, August18, 2002. Interior islands burning actively. Heat leaves the brush fuels quickly. Slop-over in Division K cooling quickly. Zone 2: The fire activity was low along the fire perimeter, due to containment lines keeping the fire from getting into new fuel sources. Fire observed today was smoldering with moderate activity, torching within the unburned interior. Zone 3: The fire continued to back down-slope on the west with some torching and short runs. Smoke is hampering visibility along the fireline. Zone 4: Extreme fire behavior throughout the day, Low humidities and winds cause significant spotting Current Weather Conditions: Tuesday Wind Speed: 5-12MPH Wind Direction: Variable Temperature: 88-99° Relative Humidity: 14-20% Biscuit Fire Public Meetings The Incident management teams from Zones 3 of the Biscuit Fire will hold a public meeting Tuesday evening, August 13 at 7 p.m. in Pistol River for area citizens. The meeting will feature fire status updates, general fire information and maps of the fire . Zone 3 (Southwest) - Great Basin National Incident Management Team (Martin) Tuesday, August 13, 2002 Pistol River Area Fellowship Hall Pistol River, Oregon 7 p.m.
91 posted on 08/13/2002 5:17:32 PM PDT by Granof8
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To: EBUCK
Good job, EBUCK !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!

92 posted on 08/13/2002 5:27:29 PM PDT by blackie
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To: All
Good News! The FBI has arrested some bad eco terrorists in Oregon: (link to FBI Arrest of Oregon Eco Terrorists)

If you see this Watermelon Ba$tard, eco terrorist, call the FBI. Lets find this DNA Scum and get him off the streets:


93 posted on 08/13/2002 5:49:44 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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