This is important. So far the entire reparations debate has been just that: a debate. This is the first completed step towards actual payments that I've seen so far outside of symbolic but unauthoritative city council votes.
So for those that think that reparations will never happen, keep events like this in mind. It's edging closer to reality every day.
No matter how this turns out, We Won't Pay. I just truly hope that it doesn't have to come to that.
1 posted on
08/12/2002 1:03:37 PM PDT by
pupdog
To: pupdog
Tell you what, I'll work for food and you can keep my paycheck. That's where we're heading, it seems: I become the slave and the "repaired" become the masters. That's a nice, equitable situation, I'd say.
To: pupdog
"to meet and begin to make decisions about the means of reparations that would be required to restore the specific groups in the different countries."
What does that even mean?
"Ida Hakim explained, "the force that brought this working group into existence was the reparations movement, so I'm confident that this working group will deal with the subject of restoration and reparations. Our hope is that it will continue the movement already underway at the UN to unite the descendants of enslaved Africans as one people, from Canada to Chile, to the Islands and across the slavery Diaspora."
Sounds like land might be at the top of the race pimps shopping wish list.
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6 posted on
08/12/2002 1:28:32 PM PDT by
mhking
To: pupdog; goldstategop; All
Anyone happen to look at that webiste
ReparationstheCURE.org?
Check it out. CURE - Caucasians United for Reparations and Emancipation. WHere do I sign up?
To: pupdog; stainlessbanner; shuckmaster; Twodees; 4ConservativeJustices
Hearing this, one couldn't help but think of how frequent it is for white folk to make an accusation that something "divisive" is taking place whenever people of color stand up for their rights.Seeing this, one can't help but think how there is an apparent double standard applied to 'white folk' and anyone of another race. It's about as derogatory as 'you people'. I never could stand to hear someone talk about another person's race that way. White folk? What pray, are 'white folk'? I'm not white!! I'm Scotch-Irish-Cherokee
And what are we supposed to do about the Africans who sold their enemies into slavery? Is the whole continent of Africa supposed to pay itself back? I can see the IMF trying to pawn that off on the industrialized nations one day. "You see these nations need a loan to pay themselves for reparations against themselves". And what's worse is that someone somewhere is going to okay it as a'nation building proposal'
To: pupdog
You know, I might be wrong, but weren't other races from other nationalities forced into slavery or worse through out history? Just checking...
15 posted on
08/12/2002 1:46:58 PM PDT by
speak
To: pupdog
Who decides who is Black? If we all claim to be Black, who pays who? Do we establish a board, to rule on who can be legally considered Black?
Since the lion's share of Africans were shipped to Cuba, and Brasil, and Haiti, do they expect to receive payment from them?
If the purpose of reparations is to right old wrongs, are the West African nations who enslaved them, and sold them, supposed to accept them back as citizens? Are Black citizens prepared to accept West African citizenship as part of a reparations package?
Since it was the British Navy, and the US Navy, and the US Army that ended the Atlantic slave trade, must modern-day Blacks refund part of their reparations payments back to the US and British treasury, to help pay defray cost of their liberation?
16 posted on
08/12/2002 2:11:06 PM PDT by
marron
To: pupdog
Is the ICC going to strong arm reparations? And use
international peacekeepers to collect?
To: pupdog
If this isn't an argument to get the U.S. out of the UN I don't know what is.
On close inspection, it could be seen that the no votes were essentially the United States and European Union
Of course they voted no...Who do you think is going to be shelling out all the "reparations" if this load of garbage ever passes.... Not the slave holding Arabs or the Sudanese I can assure you.
To: pupdog
another quiet but significant step was taken at the international level in the movement for reparationsNO REPARATIONS WITHOUT REPATRIATION!
Easy to say but hey, I'll put my money where my mouth is. Pay me adequate reparations for my forebears' involuntary departure from the Highlands of Scotland during the Clearances and I'd gladly return to the Gaidhealtachd! (I even have a bit of the Gaelic -- Tha beagan Ga\idhlig agam.) One of the few places in the world with a more pleasant (read: cool and wet) climate than Seattle.
26 posted on
08/12/2002 5:43:19 PM PDT by
Eala
To: pupdog
Slavery existed everywhere until the Jewish people - living by the law handed down from God to Moses - rid their own society of slavery by the time of Jesus simply by living according to God's law. While the UN and Jesse are busy condemning America and Israel...they may want to remember that, and that Jews and Christians in America and around the world fought the REAL fight to free the slaves...with lions, and crucifixes, and whips and chains. My gggrandfather died as the result of injuries suffered during the civil war - had his eye shot out after marching from DC to Florida and back. Millions joined this fight to free the slaves. Union troops paid
all soldiers of similar ranks equal wages. If Jesse's gggrandfather fought next to mine, they were paid the same.
In Sudan and elsewhere people are enslaved and murdered today. While free Americans misled by so-called black "leaders" are led into the age-old trap of envy and dependency...into bondage of their own making.
"Reparations" feeds the hate and divisiveness and will never bring real healing or personal growth. Only forgiveness and personal accountability will..."love thy neighbor", stop bearing false witness eg. Florida's election, and tell the Democrats to stop supporting policies that break up their families and drive away fathers.
When God let the Jewish people be taken into bondage in Egypt, he did it to reprove and to strengthen them...to build a nation of the people.
The strongest people in this country today, imho, are the African-American (or "black"- as Ken Hamblim prefers) Christians who learned the Bible at their grandparents' knee...a faith that strengthened them during their days of slavery and brought them out of the testing fire - shining examples, proof of the mercy and goodness of God to pass on to their own families and friends...the UN, and the reparations crowd are sadly in need of this lesson in real strength and value.
To: pupdog
Us SLAVS, the namesakes of the word slave were human merchandise for the West European Eurotrash for much of the last two thousand years. Maybe we should sue all the European Union for reparations as well.
28 posted on
08/12/2002 7:49:12 PM PDT by
Cacique
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