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To: sauropod
Could be that its prudent to support a President in the time of WAR.Far be it to concern yourself with the Muslim terror when such enormous items like a farm bill stir your passions and require, in fact demand, that you bitch everyday about why Bush is a "sellout" when he's trying to eradicate Islamic terror that could revisit with another 9/11.Sorry if I don't share your concerns, when i think there are bigger things to contemplate than the latest bit of leglsiation that gets your tight knickers in a twist.

Its called perspective, which you lack in spades.
125 posted on 08/12/2002 10:57:16 AM PDT by habs4ever
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To: habs4ever; sauropod
Sorry if I don't share your concerns, when i think there are bigger things to contemplate than the latest bit of leglsiation that gets your tight knickers in a twist.

Yeah, 'Pod!! I mean, really!! We all know the latest bits of legislation will protect us and 10 years from now when this 'war' is over will never be used against anyone. They won't add up to one massive amount of legislation that further destroys what's left of the Republic. We'll still have our freedoms. I imagine we'll have a load of choices as to which weekly processing/checkin center we can go to. And here in NC, we even get to pick the backgrounds for our drivers' licenses, so I imagine the same will be said of the national ID cards. Yep as long as you fall in step to the state, you're going to be just fine....

that you bitch everyday about why Bush is a "sellout" when he's trying to eradicate Islamic terror that could revisit with another 9/11

Eradicating Islamic terror is one thing, further consolidation of the general government's power under more bureaucracy is another. Just because this nation is at 'war'(and I won't even go into the fact that the POTUS hasn't officially asked Congress for war except twice in the past 160 years) doesn't mean I'm supposed to close my eyes and be led blindly to the slaughter house habs. If you allow that you're not a conservative, you're a populist statist, no better than O'Reilly

131 posted on 08/12/2002 11:34:55 AM PDT by billbears
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To: habs4ever
As you wish. I commented on the Patriot Bill which you seem to have ignored, as well as things such as the unlawful holding of some detainees. This bodes bad for our liberties.

And yes, it is a bigger threat than Islam. It is not Islamists that are putting cameras atop red lights. It is not Islamists that are insisting on evidence remaining secret. It is not Islamists that are insisting on wiretapping being done without a judge saying it is ok.

We must agree to disagree. If i suffer from a lack of perspective, then so be it. 'Pod

135 posted on 08/12/2002 11:49:35 AM PDT by sauropod
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To: habs4ever
My PERSPECTIVE is that Dubya has no business doing the UN-Constitutional things he's doing, war or no. And that he should have asked for and gotten a specific DECLARATION of war, not some namby-pamby resolution. The USA-PATRIOT act is a fine example of grabbing power under the guise of "protecting" us from the evil ones. Question I have is, if we have to give up our rights and liberties in order to win, what do we gain if we do? If we become like them, what's the purpose?
158 posted on 08/12/2002 12:55:58 PM PDT by dcwusmc
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