[dcwusmc]

My PERSPECTIVE is that Dubya has no business doing the UN-Constitutional things he's doing, war or no. And that he should have asked for and gotten a specific DECLARATION of war, not some namby-pamby resolution. The USA-PATRIOT act is a fine example of grabbing power under the guise of "protecting" us from the evil ones. Question I have is, if we have to give up our rights and liberties in order to win, what do we gain if we do? If we become like them, what's the purpose?

[habs4ever]

You may live..that is the purpose.

[billbears]

Question I have is, if we have to give up our rights and liberties in order to win, what do we gain if we do? If we become like them, what's the purpose?

Spot on!! But of course you know all these Acts will 'sunset' and we won't have to worry about that. And I've got this beautiful bridge for sale.... Problem is that once the general government tastes the power in every other instance the power has stood in the general government's court