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Reparations debate heats up - Push for slavery compensation enters political mainstream (BARF ALERT)
Houston Chronicle ^ | Aug. 11, 2002, 11:14PM | KRISTEN MACK

Posted on 08/12/2002 5:06:20 AM PDT by weegee

Reparations debate heats up

Push for slavery compensation enters political mainstream

By KRISTEN MACK Copyright 2002 Houston Chronicle

Houston lawyer Angela Matthews, 34, was a hesitant convert to the fight for paying money to blacks whose ancestors once toiled as U.S. slaves.

A California native with parents from Jamaica and no known slave ancestors, Matthews had trouble at first answering the question: "How does this directly affect me?"

As she studied the issue, however, she concluded that many modern-day disparities are the legacy of slavery, that years of unpaid labor unfairly shifted wealth from blacks to whites. She further decided that slavery's lingering effects on black America -- such as limited health care, housing and educational opportunities that echo through the generations -- entitle all blacks in this country to compensation from the government.

As she prepares to join an estimated 200 other Houstonians for a planned march in Washington, D.C., on Saturday, Matthews' conversion represents the transformation of the reparations movement from the fringe to the mainstream.

The movement promises to be divisive, as seen July 31 when the Houston City Council voted 8-7 not to support a House bill that would study slavery and the possibility of reparations.

"Very little surprises me in Texas," Matthews said of the vote. "People seem to be living more passive."

But a group packed council chambers the day before the vote to argue in favor of the resolution. And protesters over the weekend picketed the home of Councilman Michael Berry for voting against it.

Kofi Taharka, chairman of the Houston chapter of the National Black United Front, said the movement's tactics are typical of grass-roots organizations.

"It's not unlike many social movements, where it's the African-American press and word of mouth that energize our people," Taharka said. "People get to moving, and the so-called mainstream leaders try to catch up with the issue."

Once championed by fringe groups, the idea of compensating blacks for slavery is gaining support in the establishment realm of law and politics. It is seeing a national resurgence, with high-profile lawsuits filed or planned. The names behind the movement include lawyer Johnnie Cochran, Harvard law professor Charles Ogletree and U.S. Rep. John Conyers.

Some say seeking reparations as a remedy for the United States' racial problem is misguided and a prescription for more racial tension.

But those in favor envision reparations money being used to fund education, improve health care, create cultural facilities and buy and expand businesses.

At the very least, they hope the government will issue a formal apology for the institution of slavery.

Already drawing attention and fanfare is the Reparations Coordinating Committee, an elite group of lawyers, scholars and public officials.

Called upon by Randall Robinson, author of The Debt: What America Owes Blacks, the committee includes Cochran, Ogletree and others who had not previously been calling for reparations.

"It began to give this issue the credibility it didn't have before," said committee member Ronald Walters, a University of Maryland political scientist.

Those against reparations say you can't attribute problems of today to slavery. Besides, they argue the government has already spent a ton of money trying to solve such social ills as poverty and poor education.

If welfare and other social programs have not worked, asks David Horowitz, author of Uncivil Wars: The Controversy over Reparations for Slavery, why would reparations be any different?

Horowitz said seeking reparations will needlessly divide black America from the rest of the country.

"It's become a constant blame game," he said. "We've run out of people to blame."

Still, Horowitz said he thinks it will succeed in either Congress or the courts, because politicians will succumb to guilt and racial paranoia.

Walter Williams, an economics professor at George Mason University and nationally syndicated columnist, disagrees.

"No president or Congress is going to agree on paying reparations to blacks," Williams said. "I find it amazing that black people can buy into the whole notion that someone is going to give us reparations."

To him it is just pushing a handout mentality. Besides, he said, ethnic groups that were not in America during the slavery era should not be held accountable.

Reparations aren't unprecedented. Japanese-Americans who were held in internment camps during World War II received an apology and $20,000 each. To build the case for blacks, advocates also point out redress given Holocaust victims and American Indians.

The difference, opponents say, is that those reparations were for actual victims and not their descendents.

"The rules are changed for everything when it comes to us," said Walters, of the reparations committee. "People want desperately to invalidate the claim."

The group plans to file suit later this year. Walters was mum on the logistics behind building a legal case, such as defining plaintiffs, how to prove specific victims suffered wrongdoing and the statute of limitations.

All are difficult to prove nearly 140 years after slavery was abolished. But proponents hope to have American slavery declared a crime against humanity, which has no statute of limitations.

Organizers also must combat a persistent myth that they are seeking checks for individual descendants. One urban legend alarmingly says individuals would split a $1.2 trillion settlement.

"None of us are talking about that," Walters said. "That's a simplistic notion of reparations. If you make it stupid enough, you invalidate the claim. People will say, `Let's close down the discussion.'"

Instead, the organizers want money spent on rebuilding black communities.

Conyers, D-Mich., has been introducing a House bill that would establish a commission to examine slavery and recommend remedies, including the possibility of reparations, during every session since 1989.

Within the past few years a number of cities, including Dallas, Atlanta, Baltimore, Chicago and New York, have passed or considered supporting Conyers' efforts.

The Houston City Council voted down a similar resolution. Taharka said that if enough pressure is placed on the "establishment" and multiple tactics are used, eventually it will lead to results.

"History," he explained, "teaches us that the way we get it is through struggle."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: gimmegimme; houston; jamaica; slaveryreparations; texas
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To: Under the Radar
Thank you.Unlike what mhking & rdb3 think,I wasn't refering to ALL blacks,just those with the insane notion that reparations will cure all woes.
21 posted on 08/12/2002 12:46:43 PM PDT by Far Right Of Left
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To: MistrX
They shake down the politicians as well. Even though this was purely a symbolic vote (and our approval would be for a plan that we would not even oversee or implement) it will be used in political campaigns for years to come.

I say this based on past experience with Houston politics where a mayoral candidate was the subject of a phone scampaign to black voters. He had not voted to support a symbolic measure to back hate crimes legislation. One of Byrd's relatives made a taped phone message to link the candidate to the dragging deaths.

Giving such political ploys airtime at council meetings (it was raised by Lee P Period Brown (the incumbent who ran against the unfairly maligned mayoral candidate)) is purely a political move at a time that city services are sorely lacking.

Some of the behind the scenes cause for the local black outrage for Berry is that he got support from the black community in his campaign for city council. One of the political movers and shakers, Sylvester Turner, claims that Berry made a pledge to him that he would not compete against Turner in the next mayoral campaign but he's already announced his intent to run for mayor. Turner is black. Berry is white. The "racist" mayoral candidate was a Cuban born Hispanic Republican. Any questions?

22 posted on 08/12/2002 5:02:00 PM PDT by weegee
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To: weegee
Thanks for the post; Walter Williams is absolutely correct when he states that no President or Congress will ever approve reparations for slavery anytime soon. If that were the case, then Bill"America's First Black President"Clinton would have passed an executive order to get it done. As far as I'm concerned these bozos should either put up or shut up; preferably the latter.
24 posted on 08/12/2002 9:55:06 PM PDT by T Lady
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To: Far Right Of Left; rdb3
You want an apology? I'm sorry anyone died to help free your ancestors,I'm sorry we've paid billions of dollars in welfare programs and most of all,I'm sorry we ever brought your sorry a**es over here in the first place. Apology accepted?

Yeah- next time pick your own damn cotton.

25 posted on 08/12/2002 10:11:18 PM PDT by mafree
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To: weegee
Their case has more holes in it than swiss cheese. How about this quote: "People want desperately to invalidate the claim." What a hoot!

The opposite is the actual truth: "People want desperately to validate the claim."

26 posted on 08/13/2002 11:00:37 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: weegee
>>But proponents hope to have American slavery declared a crime against humanity, which has no statute of limitations.<<

Hmmm, was it a "crime against humanity" at the time. What statute was our government violating. Doesn't a law have to exist before you've actually violated it. Also, many slaves were treated better than many employees of today.

This thing is seriously rediculous and I really feel sorry for the lower class masses that really believe they can simply march their way to a windfall. I for one will opt out of an economy that will cater to such obsurdity. I can get a visa and just leave.

Oh, and if they do get it, the american indians will be right behind, of course.

Jeeze this is stupid.
27 posted on 08/13/2002 11:08:34 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: Ancesthntr
>>I firmly believe (and, to be honest, hope) that any attempt to tax the people of this country to fund
reparations will result in the largest increase in the mortality rate of "legitimate" government officials
since the Revolutionary War.<<

I sincerely hope that if this thing does get legs, that your proposal is what it comes down to. This thing will bring this country down violently - and any politician with any sense at all is quite aware of that.
28 posted on 08/13/2002 11:16:49 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: RobRoy
I for one say lets pay the reparations and get it over with.
Because once those checks are written and the African- American population have their pieces of gold and I am sure a Congressional Apology, thats it the guilt of white america will have been satisfied and neither group owes the other anything else. Of course this means no more social welfare programs, affirmative action, etc. that can be foisted upon the Whites to make them feel guilty about slavery and it's aftermath. It will be just like a law suit, money paid, guilt admitted and we move on.
29 posted on 08/13/2002 11:20:43 AM PDT by jjhunsecker
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To: mafree
>>Yeah- next time pick your own damn cotton.<<

You must be referring to Eli Whitneys cotton gin. Slavery is Soooo nineteenth century. We have technology now. We can afford to be nice - but not too nice.
30 posted on 08/13/2002 11:23:39 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: RobRoy
...and I really feel sorry for the lower class masses that really believe they can simply march their way to a windfall.

If this were a democracy where the mob rules then they could march their way to money by demanding it with sufficient numbers. Heck, we could all march on Washington and demand our tax dollars back. Neither march would make the request "right". The number of people marching wouldn't do anything to make it "more right".

31 posted on 08/13/2002 11:29:52 AM PDT by weegee
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To: weegee
Yeah. That's why I cringe whenever I here someone call this country a democracy. To me, democracy and mob rule are exactly the same thing. I hear "mobocracy" when I hear "democracy."

Democracy is arguably the most dangerous form of government devised by man.
32 posted on 08/13/2002 11:32:49 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: RobRoy
I sincerely hope that if this thing does get legs, that your proposal is what it comes down to.

I know what you are saying, but it wasn't and isn't a proposal. It is an observation or a prediction, and most emphatically NOT a call to action.

One must be careful about what one says in writing - you never know who is lurking.

33 posted on 08/13/2002 11:37:15 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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