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Islam - The Scorpion's Shadow
PakToday ^ | 8.11.02 | Tashbih Sayyed

Posted on 08/11/2002 8:10:41 AM PDT by swarthyguy

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1 posted on 08/11/2002 8:10:41 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
bookmarked for later.....

Thanks for the post.

2 posted on 08/11/2002 8:13:39 AM PDT by Jackie222
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To: swarthyguy
Bump
3 posted on 08/11/2002 8:15:29 AM PDT by facedown
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To: swarthyguy
Excellent, excellent, EXCELLENT article.

In the end, these extremists will only truly be defeated when the millions who practice the Islamic faith reject their perverted vision.

Until and unless that happens, the radical Islamists will continue to be a deadly threat to peace and justice.

4 posted on 08/11/2002 8:15:31 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: dennisw; knighthawk
http://www.islamonline.net/fatwaapplication/english/display.asp?hFatwaID=75997

Do Muslims Hate non-Muslims?

LOL!
5 posted on 08/11/2002 8:16:52 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Illbay
Agree, he's a brave man and courageous to speak out the way he does.

But what difference does he make? He's here writing this when his country, Pakistan, needs his rationality more than we do.

Also, he stands out because he's one of the few American Muslims speaking out in favor of sanity. The other one, Sheikh Kabbani of NY is a Sufi whose mosque conducts service with men and women sitting side by side. Blasphemous for most of the mosques in America.

But you are correct; it is somewhat encouraging to read viewpoints like this. Except he's considered an apostate and a blasphemer by mainstream islam; you do NOT hear clerics from AlAzhar University in Cairo or the Mad mullahs of Saudi saying anything close to this.

Anyway, glad you enjoyed it.
6 posted on 08/11/2002 8:21:12 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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Heal thyself, "physican"......What unbridled arrogance....

However, Muslims hate Kufr, or disbelief in A***h, the Almighty. Since we love all people, we hate their disobedience of A***h, the Most High. So, even when people deny the existence of A***h we do not hate them personally; however, we hate their disbelief and disobedience of A***h, Exalted be He. This case is very similar to that of a doctor and a patient. The doctor does not hate the patient or the sick person himself or herself, rather he or she hates the disease and tries every possible means to cure the disease and help the patient to recover. We Muslims hate disbelief and disobedience of A****h and we are striving and sparing no effort to do away with this disease and cure people’s sickness and help them become obedient servants of A***h (God).

LOL-Love the disbeliever; hate the disbelief!

7 posted on 08/11/2002 8:24:46 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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Encouraging read. We need more like-thinking Muslims to speak out.
8 posted on 08/11/2002 8:29:09 AM PDT by What Is Ain't
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To: What Is Ain't
They have -- all six of them.
9 posted on 08/11/2002 8:29:38 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Illbay
>>these extremists will only truly be defeated when the millions who practice the Islamic faith reject their perverted vision.

I disagree; until the West and the other nonislamics with a bone to pick with the fruitcakes wipe out the jihadis, the moderates will be too scared to come out.

He did and had to flee Pakistan and live with death threats in the USA to say what he wants. It's incumbent upon us to creat an atmosphere where the 'moderates' if they really are moderates are free to speak out.
10 posted on 08/11/2002 8:32:16 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
I watched the "Lord of the Rings" movie last night. I was amazed by these similarities. Did anyone else notice the same thing?


11 posted on 08/11/2002 8:34:49 AM PDT by Alouette
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To: Alouette
AMC had Lawrence of Arabia last night. I had seen it in the widescreen movie theatre in 1989 when they released a redone version with extra footage that really helps the movie.

ProArab, maybe but still a great flick....
12 posted on 08/11/2002 8:38:57 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
The US, more than any Muslim country, understands the principles Allah values and protects them through the US Constitution. The Constitution proclaims that the US government is a creation "of the people by the people and for the people." Allah's will does not favor a particular faith, color or creed, and neither does the American constitution.

This is utter nonsense. Does this liberal backsliding so called muslim believe one god is as good as another. I don't think Allah wants any strange gods before him.

If you can't follow the religion get out of it. Don't tailor it to your needs.- Tom

13 posted on 08/11/2002 8:43:03 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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Your point is a very good one. Most moderates and Sufis are considered apostates and very deserving of killing.
It's a paradox that the very ones who advocate tolerance and modernism are worse than anyone else and deserve killing first.
14 posted on 08/11/2002 8:46:03 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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Very intersting, have to say this is the first time I've seen any thing even remotely like it.
15 posted on 08/11/2002 8:49:32 AM PDT by tet68
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To: dennisw; OKCSubmariner; watchin; VOA; harpseal; timestax; xJones; justshutupandtakeit; TopDog2; ...
Islam list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

16 posted on 08/11/2002 8:52:47 AM PDT by knighthawk
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To: Alouette
An orc is an orc is an orc...
17 posted on 08/11/2002 8:54:48 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Alouette
Hmmm wonder if Peter Jackson has noticed these smilarities...lol.
18 posted on 08/11/2002 9:00:08 AM PDT by psychopuppy
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To: swarthyguy
Islam is "some kind of false religion" (GWB)
19 posted on 08/11/2002 9:59:56 AM PDT by eclectic
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To: Alouette
Damn, that was pretty funny.
20 posted on 08/11/2002 10:47:41 AM PDT by NYS_Eric
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