JoeEveryman and the Anti-FReeper Attack on Free Republic

To: Bob J; jimrob

If my memory serves me correctly, the SC Chapter had gotten a letter from Harris's scheduler stating that it was on the calendar and she wanted to attend, but that they couldn't confirm attendance any sooner than 30 days out due to her funky schedule.

Your memory only fails you in that you were TOLD by a certain someone that they had a letter when in fact they had no such thing. (You ought to be talking to the people that I talked to at the time.)

I think the people running this event may have jumped the gun by announcing she WOULD be there, that was a mistake. But, I do believe they were working feverishly on getting her right up to the week of the event. It could have been the same with Sauls.

Again, this was part of the DELIBERATE misleading of those who wanted to attend the event but only if Sauls and/or Harris were going to be there.

And the information that neither would be there ONLY came out and was verified several short days before the "event" .... far too late to cancel and recover monies paid for hotel, airfare, etc..

Now, when chapters are doing an event and ask for the FRN's advice, we strongly urge them not to indicate a confirmation on attendance until they have the confirmation letter in their hands.

Frankly, I think it's a mistake for FRN or FR itself to be "recommending" anything to people/organizations that they simply don't know, have no way of validating (other than "they're a freeper, they're one of us!") As I said to JimRob at the time, I think it's a huge mistake to put the FR name on anything other than FR itself. Face it Bob, you nor I don't have any way of knowing people half-way across the country, their motivation for participating, or any underlying agenda's they may have. For this reason, and this reason alone, the FR name shouldn't be "loaned out" (via "endorsements" or anything else) to anyone, period.

As a side, I believe there was some antifreeper activity concerning this event in SC. If I am not misteken, they mentioned a campaign of writing letters to Sauls and Harris urging them not to attend.

While it is true that this was happening, I simply reject that as an argument. The event's organizers threw out the names of Harris & Sauls at the very beginning of hyping the event, for purposes of promotion and driving up attendance. It was only at the very last minute they finally acknowledged that neither would attend. To me, this smacks of fraud.

The rest of their actions have already been documented. I for one would be more than happy to talk to S.C. law enforcement officials, since I still have copies of everything I've received --- including a freepmail just two days before leaving for S.C. myself that both Sauls and Harris would be there --- when I already knew --- and had it confirmed by a S.C. chapter member, that this would not be the case.

Sorry Bob, it's fraud ... plain and simple. It was deliberate, and FR was duped into being used as a promotional vehicle for the event. I knew it then, I know it now.

It took 14 months for the truth to come out, but it always does in the end, and I've been vindicated.

Funny, those who trashed me then are still missing from this thread. I wonder what that says about them?

221 posted on 08/10/2002 4:15:53 PM PDT by usconservative

To: Jim Robinson

Thank you for Free Republic BTTT! May God continue to bless....

222 posted on 08/10/2002 4:16:39 PM PDT by bazbo

And WE did it in just a couple weeks working day and night.

Heh heh.... does it feel like the tape recorder is always running Nav? Admirable ability to stick to the story!

223 posted on 08/10/2002 4:17:17 PM PDT by Daus

Dix, the comments I made were about events not related to the SC Conference, but you're right. I'll wait until this issue is resolved.

224 posted on 08/10/2002 4:18:38 PM PDT by Bob J

H'rup ol man, try to get over being wild about harry.
-- You haven't commented yet on the rather odd return of our lost navigator. Vos ess los?

225 posted on 08/10/2002 4:19:05 PM PDT by tpaine

My chickens, and I, have a Chapter meeting every night...they call on the higher being ( that's me ) to feed and water them. I think one of them is hoarding some of the scratch feed and hiding her eggs in an unauthorized nest...an investigation has been started. This could be a death penalty case...:-)

226 posted on 08/10/2002 4:19:33 PM PDT by beowolf

It's easy for me to keep things straight, I just stick to the truth.

Not speculation.

You should try it.

227 posted on 08/10/2002 4:19:40 PM PDT by navigator

To: Paul Atreides

When MurryMom posts it is like having our own personal Eleanor Clift.

Ewwww. You had to say that. Now, every time I see a MurryMom post, I have to envision Eleanor's face, all puckered up like she's been sucking on an all-day lemon...

228 posted on 08/10/2002 4:19:44 PM PDT by dirtboy

I know Bob, it's still sad that they have so little in their lives that matter that they have to devote it to destruction.

229 posted on 08/10/2002 4:19:54 PM PDT by McGavin999

To: usconservative

I will apologize to you, since no one else will. That's not right that you were treated that way and especially bad that no one has had the courtesy to thank you for being on the alert.

I'm glad you had a good time in any event. Are you going to Las Vegas?

230 posted on 08/10/2002 4:19:59 PM PDT by Auntie Mame

Welcome to another Anti-freeper thread.

They give me headaches personally, but you do add a certain twinge to it.

231 posted on 08/10/2002 4:20:00 PM PDT by LowOiL

232 posted on 08/10/2002 4:20:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne

This could be a death penalty case...:-)

No mercy... Speaking of chickens and such, I'm off to the State Fair! Don't let this get out of hand.... :)

233 posted on 08/10/2002 4:21:24 PM PDT by Daus

To: usconservative; Bob J; All

This is an ongoing investigation - YOU DO NOT KNOW WHO IS LURKING - please drop it.

Thank you for your cooperation in this matter.

Dixie Sass
Interim President

234 posted on 08/10/2002 4:21:26 PM PDT by dixie sass

Could it be that you are a Choleric/Sanguine? Good news, that makes you right 90% of the time and a lot of fun while you're being right. Nothing wrong with that!

235 posted on 08/10/2002 4:21:37 PM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts

Believe me, I didn't have to mention Eleanor's name to know that MM has a lemon-sucker face.

236 posted on 08/10/2002 4:22:13 PM PDT by Paul Atreides

Thank you, I do appreciate it.

237 posted on 08/10/2002 4:22:44 PM PDT by dixie sass

I will apologize to you, since no one else will. That's not right that you were treated that way and especially bad that no one has had the courtesy to thank you for being on the alert.

You owe me nothing. :) Sometimes we have to stand and weather the storm to do the right thing. I've never been afraid to do that.

238 posted on 08/10/2002 4:22:56 PM PDT by usconservative

I like MurrayMom, though I rarely see her posts. She's polite even though she's wrong and I bet she's a nice person. You got to give her credit, she's got a lot of guts to post here.

239 posted on 08/10/2002 4:23:37 PM PDT by Auntie Mame

This is an ongoing investigation - YOU DO NOT KNOW WHO IS LURKING - please drop it.

I frankly don't care who's lurking. Are you afraid of the truth? Funny, you're the one person who doesn't need to be.

240 posted on 08/10/2002 4:24:03 PM PDT by usconservative

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