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Einstein's relativity theory hits a speed bump
www.theage.com.au ^ | August 8 2002 | David Wroe

Posted on 08/10/2002 7:52:40 AM PDT by It'salmosttolate

Einstein's relativity theory hits a speed bump

August 8 2002

Australian scientists have discovered that light isn't quite as fast as it used to be. But it doesn't mean E=mc2 will be consigned to the dustbin, writes David Wroe.

In October, 1971, American physicists took four super-accurate atomic clocks, kept two on the ground and put two on commercial jets flying at 1000 kmh in opposite directions around Earth.

When the planes landed, the scientists found what they were hoping for: The clocks on the high-speed journeys were ticking a few billionths of a second behind their stationary friends.

Motion, it turns out, slows time - one of the funny effects of the law of relativity. At low speeds, the effect is slight and makes no difference to our daily lives.

We had no idea to look for such effects until the 26-year-old Albert Einstein walked into the office of Annalen der Physik journal in Bern, Switzerland, in 1905, gave the editor his paper on the special theory of relativity and asked that it be printed "if you can find room for it".

That paper, and the general theory of relativity that followed it, revolutionised the way scientists understood the universe, and history has remembered it ever since as a shift from Newtonian physics - where space, time, motion and gravity are separate and proceed with rigid, clockwork elegance - to Einsteinian physics, where things bend, stretch and pull on each another in most unusual ways.

In between these paradigm shifts, there are leaps in understanding. Today's announcement by Australian physicists in the leading scientific journal Nature may turn out to be one of those moments.

Incorporating some of the most intriguing aspects of cosmology and theoretical physics - distant quasars, black holes, event horizons and, probably, quantum theory - they have concluded that the speed of light has slowed down over time.

The discovery means faster-than-light travel, which is prohibited by the law of relativity, may one day be possible. It also changes our understanding of the beginnings of the universe. But lead author and award-winning physicist and writer Professor Paul Davies emphasises that Einstein's famous equation, E=mc2, is not about to be consigned to the dustbin.

Energy, Einstein discovered, was equal to mass times the speed of light squared, with the speed of light as a constant in a vacuum such as space. News that the speed of light may not be constant after all does not mean the old theory falls apart altogether, Davies says. The theory of relativity remains good for most situations, just as Newton's laws remained more or less correct after Einstein, except at high speeds or under intense gravity.

"It's not going change the way we build cyclotrons or microchips or anything of that sort," Davies says. "It's just that the theory of relativity will be seen not to be the last word."

If the speed of light was close to infinity, immediately after the Big Bang, as Davies believes it may have been, our theories about the way energy cooled to form matter, giving rise to stars, planets and people, could be completely wrong.

Still, correcting Einstein is no small feat and is likely to attract controversy, perhaps even animosity from scientific colleagues.

"When I first heard about these observations . . . I was, frankly, not only sceptical about it, I was appalled," Davies says. "I thought it was horrible. The last thing we wanted in theoretical physics was to have something like this."

Einstein, who died in 1955, is still regarded as perhaps the greatest mind ever. The remarkable thing about his discoveries was that he literally sat in his flat in Bern during his spare time while working as a clerk at the patent office and thought it all up using sheer brain power. Only later were his theories proved, repeatedly, through experiment and observation.

Dr Charley Lineweaver, one of Davies' co-authors, along with graduate student Tamara Davis, explains that their paper works the other way around. They have taken observations and plugged the data into known mathematical formulas to determine that the speed of light has slowed.

"Theorists always play with all kinds of crazy things," Lineweaver says. "The important thing here is we have experimental evidence . . . that's what's new here."

The theory is based on observations made at the University of New South Wales by Dr John Webb in 1999 and further observations by one of his PhD students, Michael Murphy.

It is hair-curling science. They looked at light from the most distant objects in the universe, quasars up to a billion times the size of our sun, which are 10 billion or 12 billion light years away.

"The light that comes to you from a quasar has been travelling for most of the age of the universe - several billion years - and it carries with it information about what happened to it along the way," Murphy says.

On its long journey, the light from those quasars has passed through gas clouds full of metals. The photons in the light - little packets of energy that make up the light itself - interact with the electrons in the gas clouds, charged particles that orbit the nuclei of the metal atoms. This leaves a fingerprint on the light as it arrives on Earth, called the fine structure constant, Murphy explains.

When they measured the fine structure constant of this 12 billion-year-old light, Webb and Murphy found it was slightly smaller than it would be today. Mathematically, there were two possible reasons for this - either the electric charge of the electrons had increased, or the speed of light had fallen.

Using Stephen Hawking's formula for black hole thermodynamics, Davies, Davis and Lineweaver ruled out the electric charge possibility. By adapting Hawking's formula, they determined that an increase in electric charge would break the second law of thermodynamics, which says energy can only flow from hot spots to cold spots.

"That's illegal. It would be like a cup of coffee sitting on your desk getting hotter," Lineweaver says.

But while he is still cautious about the quasar observations, he says the implications are revolutionary if they hold true. "Supposing we do take it seriously, then we have some very profound things to worry about. One is, why is it doing this?"

The next question is what physical processes are at work to slow light speed? Lineweaver says that's "the subject for a thousand other papers."

One possibility, though, is that the structure of the vacuum in space has changed. This is where we get into the rather spooky world of quantum physics. When light travels through a medium other than a vacuum, such as glass or water, it slows down. A vacuum, far from being empty, is teeming with quantum "virtual" particles that flit in and out of existence.

Sometimes those particles become real, such as under a strong electric charge, Lineweaver says. If the vacuum of space is changing uniformly across the universe, just as the universe is expanding uniformly, it could affect the speed of light.

For now, Murphy and Webb's observations of quasars will continue to be scrutinised and be regarded with scepticism. "If they're right, this makes theoretical physicists very uncomfortable," Davies says. "These are cherished laws and they don't really want to have to ditch them, because all of the favoured frontier stuff these days, with people working on string theory, M-theory and all these other sexy topics, would have to down tools and start with a completely different conceptual scheme."

"On the other hand, science is made out of iconoclasm. If old theories never got overthrown, we'd all be out of work. So it's always nice to have something that challenges the basic paradigm and this does so with a vengeance."

David Wroe is The Age science reporter.


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There's one other little problem with gravity from Einstein's point of view: nothing Einstein ever had to say about gravity would allow us to believe that it ever could have changed significantly on this planet. Nonetheless, it is a very easy demonstration that it has. The super animals of past ages would be crushed by their own weight in our present world; the largest of them required at least a 3/1 attenuation of the acceleration due to gravity in order to survive at all.

Ralph Sansbury on the other hand describes gravity as an electrostatic dipole effect, which could easily have been attenuated due to the greater surface electrostatic charge of the prehistoric world.

41 posted on 08/10/2002 11:23:29 AM PDT by medved
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To: TigersEye
see http://blueox.uoregon.edu/~karen/astro123/lectures/michelson_morley.html
42 posted on 08/10/2002 11:31:33 AM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: Sundog
(Takes the rain longer to get down to them)
43 posted on 08/10/2002 11:37:21 AM PDT by Sundog
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To: MSSC6644
It seems that just when we get arrogant enough to think we about have it figured out, God throws us a curve.

I agree. Some people never seem to learn.

And some people never seem learn from thier mistake in assuming that if we can't explain everything RIGHT NOW then there must be some supernatural force at work. In my exeperience its the fundementalists that are far more arrogant that the scientists. Most scientists will tell you that they know very little about all there is to know about the universe. Scientists are more willing to admit when their wrong and when they can't explain something. Its the fundamentalists who always have an answer(usually wrong) for everything. I'm sorry I just couldn't allow your bashing of the scientific method to go uncontested.

44 posted on 08/10/2002 11:55:10 AM PDT by rmmcdaniell
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To: medved
The super animals of past ages would be crushed by their own weight in our present world

Imaginative physics.

45 posted on 08/10/2002 12:19:47 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: It'salmosttolate
One possibility, though, is that the structure of the vacuum in space has changed.

Man...that SUCKS!

46 posted on 08/10/2002 12:21:32 PM PDT by snopercod
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To: onedoug
It's all a bunch of relativistic relativism.

Now hold on, that all depends...

47 posted on 08/10/2002 12:23:56 PM PDT by snopercod
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To: PatrickHenry
Placemarker.
48 posted on 08/10/2002 12:24:52 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: jimkress
I have always told my kids, that I think that to some great extent God speaks in mathematics and that physics is the study of the most fundamental rules laid down by God relating to how the world works.

Alas, I am not certain that it makes them study math or physics any harder, but it does make them roll their eyes a lot.

49 posted on 08/10/2002 12:59:03 PM PDT by Backwoods Southern Lawyer
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To: RightWhale
Imaginative physics.

More like an embarassment to physicists. Somebody should have figured that one out 80 years ago. What it really says is that old Al should have been spending more time in the gym and less time doing "thought experiments".

50 posted on 08/10/2002 1:00:32 PM PDT by medved
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To: aristeides
Thank you for your post!

Does the theory of relativity remain totally accurate for most situations, or is it only accurate enough (i.e., with errors small enough to be ignored) in normal situations? Also, if we can now observe situations where its inaccuracy is noticeable, although still very small, are there other situations (e.g., the universe closer to the big bang, and maybe current situations in or near places like black holes) where the theory's inaccuracies might have been (or be) far greater?

As I understand the prevailing view, all laws of physics break down in singularities, because velocity, density, mass, size, etc. either become 'zero' or infinite with nothing in between, mathematically speaking.

With regard to Einstein's theories, IMHO his instincts were impeccable and will stand the test of time.

The "cosmological constant" (Lambda) which he asserted and then rejected because it looked "kluged" - is again gaining interest. It is seen by some as the energy density of the vacuum where virtual particles come into and out of existence through quantum fluctuations. It is useful in explaining how the early universe expanded at a higher rate than we see today. NASA: Cosmological Constant

Einstein also dreamed of transmuting the "base wood" of matter into the "pure marble" of geometry to unify the gravitational field with other fields and with its source.

Einstein was theoretically doing away with particles (wood) in favor of marble (fields.) Today's superstring theories tend to strengthen the particle (wood) side by extending it to the string and hypersurface. To the contrary - Einstein, Schrodinger, de Broglie and others saw something much more elegant which I believe we are only now seeing become increasingly popular.

In search of extra dimensions (Fermi Lab)

Classical and Quantized Aspects of Dynamics in Five-Dimensional Relativity

With respect to Einstein's theories of General Relativity and Special Relativity - I expect them to stand within the very adjustments Einstein himself predicted but didn't live long enough to explore.

Just my two cents...

51 posted on 08/10/2002 1:04:15 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: It'salmosttolate
A bump in space in time..
52 posted on 08/10/2002 1:04:40 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: medved
an embarassment to physicists

Some people do philosophy of science and others do science. A few do both. No one in any of these groups is embarrassed by such assertions. What-ifs are the bailiwick of sci-fi writers.

53 posted on 08/10/2002 1:12:38 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: rmmcdaniell
It seems that just when we get arrogant enough to think we about have it figured out, God throws us a curve.

I agree. Some people never seem to learn.

And some people never seem learn from thier mistake in assuming that if we can't explain everything RIGHT NOW then there must be some supernatural force at work. In my exeperience its the fundementalists that are far more arrogant that the scientists. Most scientists will tell you that they know very little about all there is to know about the universe. Scientists are more willing to admit when their wrong and when they can't explain something. Its the fundamentalists who always have an answer(usually wrong) for everything. I'm sorry I just couldn't allow your bashing of the scientific method to go uncontested.

Dear Keeper of the Bunsen Burner:

I really don't want to get into an argument here, but my "pun" was not "bashing the scientific method." I was just pointing out that the more man thinks he knows, the less he understands. I'm sure your scientists would agree that there are more secrets in the universe and beyond, no matter the size, than they will ever be able to reveal.

I find your use of the word "fundamental" to be quite appropriate; I simply think you've mis-assigned it.

54 posted on 08/10/2002 1:26:19 PM PDT by MSSC6644
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To: miner89; TigersEye
I was thinking the same thing (I'm not a scientist).

What if light is the only true constant? If the universe is expanding but light is a constant fixed to something external, then everything in the universe except light would adjust to the expansion. Wouldn't that make light look like it's slowing down because it's really moving at a constant speed relative to an expanded space? In other words, it takes longer to reach its destination because the distance has grown.

-PJ

55 posted on 08/10/2002 1:28:26 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too
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To: MSSC6644
That's the point of science though surely? You can never prove a theory *true* in scientific method, so oddly enough, by proving something false (which these guys haven't yet IMO) you get to move science along a little notch, your models of how the universe works get a little more precise.

What happens each time scientists do this is *precisely* learning. They adjust their view of the world to accomodate reality a little better and that's just what makes it learning.
56 posted on 08/10/2002 1:31:11 PM PDT by bernie_g
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To: Backwoods Southern Lawyer
God throws us a curve.

As my physics professor in college was always quick to say, Every generation of physicists think they have it figured out. But they always end up standing on the shoulders of of past generations of scientists. He also said our understanding of motion physics is obviously flawed or we wouldn't have leap years.
57 posted on 08/10/2002 2:23:30 PM PDT by AdA$tra
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To: Political Junkie Too
Wouldn't that make light look like it's slowing down because it's really moving at a constant speed relative to an expanded space?

...and so that means that each molcule in my fingernail could be like a whole galaxy to some tiny race of aliens?
58 posted on 08/10/2002 2:26:13 PM PDT by AdA$tra
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To: RightWhale
The question which nobody wants to ask:

If sauropod sizes were such a winning ticket for animals which supposedly dominated the Earth for tens of millions of years, then why in the 70 million years which supposedly separate our age from the age of dinosaurs, has nothing else ever RE-EVOLVED to such sizes. The short, simple answer is they can't; they'd be crushed by their own weight if they did and, as I noted, that is a simple and airtight demonstration working from what we know of the weightlifting sports. The theoretical limit is about 21,000 lbs. in our present world and the actual limit appears to be about 15,000, i.e. the size of the largest elephants. Any larger than that, and you wouldn't be able to lift your own weight off the ground.

59 posted on 08/10/2002 2:30:29 PM PDT by medved
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To: AdA$tra
He also said our understanding of motion physics is obviously flawed or we wouldn't have leap years.

You are most fortunate to have studied under such a brilliant man.

60 posted on 08/10/2002 2:56:47 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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