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To: andy_card
If you do not believe in God, you give all creation of rights to man, including In-Alienable right (which suddenly become alienable don't they!).

Being Created gives Moral Authority to the Author of the Creation. He can set rules and give inalienable rights. We as men can then protect those rights and enforce those rules. We can reason ways to enforce morality if and only if that morality comes from the Moral Authority over all men. And when a body of men reason new rules that violate the Creator's standards we can fight, as they have no right to rule over us outside the Creators standard.

192 posted on 08/12/2002 3:12:11 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777
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To: CyberCowboy777
If you do not believe in God, you give all creation of rights to man, including In-Alienable right (which suddenly become alienable don't they!).

Regrettably, you are correct. There are no innalienable rights. Just ask the Cambodians under Pol Pot what rights they had, or the Cossacks under Stalin. We have what rights we give ourselves. We are the masters of our own fate.

Being Created gives Moral Authority to the Author of the Creation. He can set rules and give inalienable rights.

Even if that were true, which it isn't, its irrelevent. Those inalienable rights only exist when a government predisposed to limiting its own power grants them. If you're mixing cement in a Gulag, you have no right to life, no right to liberty, and certainly no right to the pursuit of happiness.

And when a body of men reason new rules that violate the Creator's standards we can fight, as they have no right to rule over us outside the Creators standard.

We can fight whenever we feel like it. The Joint Chiefs of Staff could lead a coup tomorrow, if they wanted to, regardless of any justification. Again, if there are any standards, they are completely irrelevent. You either agree to live by the rules, or you don't.

215 posted on 08/12/2002 3:54:11 PM PDT by andy_card
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