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Are you Concerned about Illegal Immigration?
Freedom Friend | 08/09/02 | Freedom Friend

Posted on 08/09/2002 9:49:18 PM PDT by FreedomFriend

Are you concerned about our nation's porous borders? It's a fair question, and I think that it is one that nearly everyone can answer. Please provide your opinion and why you feel one way or the other?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: donutwatch
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To: Torie
That's not what I'm seeing, though I'm sure there are some.
161 posted on 08/10/2002 12:14:22 AM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: FreedomFriend
"The costs of illegal immigration are huge. I'll go one step further and say that the costs of current legal immigration are huge. We are simply admitting too many people of too many backgrounds in too little time. The effects of which will be disastrous"

Exactly. One of our biggest problems today is the wholesale onslaught of illegals and immigrants into this country. We havn't been able to absorb the many millions that we have much less more of them. This nation is crumbling...its falling apart and we've our Politicians to thank.

162 posted on 08/10/2002 12:15:02 AM PDT by brat
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To: FreedomFriend
It is probably all that humidity and heat down there that is so enervating.
163 posted on 08/10/2002 12:15:23 AM PDT by Torie
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To: FreedomFriend
I agree, especially all the Mexican, Columbian, Cuban, and Brazilian flags hanging from the rear view mirrors, on antennas, on the bumper, on windows, etc.

Here on the east cost I see the flags of Italy, Ireland, Cuba ect ect. So what?
164 posted on 08/10/2002 12:16:25 AM PDT by Brush_Your_Teeth
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To: FreedomFriend

From the Handbook of Texas, the history and effect of Czech immigration and settlement in Texas.

Germans
This Handbook of Texas entry looks at the "The German Belt" settlement of Texas.

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Czech Heritage Society of Texas
Non-profit organization for the preservation of the Czech heritage in Texas.

German-Texan Heritage Society
Non-profit organization in Austin holds educational seminars, publishes newsletters and books, and provides genealogical assistance.

Boerne, Texas
Named for a German political writer, Boerne is home to an Agricultural Heritage Center, Cave Without a Name, Cibolo Wilderness Trail, as well as many historic buildings. It's about 30 miles northwest of San Antonio, just down the road from Comfort, Texas.

Caldwell, Texas
Home to the Caldwell Kolache Festival and the Czech Heritage Museum, it's located about 80 miles northeast of Austin in Burleson County.

Comfort, Texas
German settlers from New Braunfels established "Camp Comfort" in 1854. It's a popular tourist area along the Guadalupe River southwest of Austin, near Kerrville.

Elgin, Texas
The Sausage Capital of Texas is 19 miles east of Austin. At the Chamber of Commerce site you can learn more about things to do in Elgin, history, and historic sites, many built by German founders.

Fredericksburg, Texas
Learn all about living in and visiting this historic German community in the Texas Hill Country west of Austin. They have an excellent listing of Things to Do and See.

La Grange, Texas
First settled by German immigrants followed by Czechs and Moravians a few years later. Home to museums, festivals, and other special events. Southeast of Austin about 70 miles.

Gruene, Texas
When land became harder to find in New Braunfels, Ernst and Antoinette Gruene moved a little north and eventually the area became the town of Gruene. Find history, places to stay, and businesses from this site.

New Braunfels, Texas
"A bit of old Germany in the heart of the Lone Star State" is how they bill themselves. Located south of Austin and San Marcos on IH35 the City Web site tells you all about visiting (or moving to) New Braunfels and things to see and do.

Pflugerville, Texas
Just 4 miles north of from Austin in Travis County, this community was founded by German immigrants. The City site has history and city news.

Schulenburg, Texas
About 80 miles southeast of Austin this community has a Czech and German heritage. This site for the Chamber of Commerce includes history, a calendar, and things to see and do in Schulenburg.

Texas Czech Heritage and Cultural Center, Inc.
Located in La Grange, this non-profit organization aims to promote history, language, and culture of the Czech community in Texas. They also assist those seeking to trace their Czech ancestry.

Volksmarsch in Austin
Even if you don't want to make the walk you'll find information here about the historic stops along the way and learn about buildings and other historical locations in Austin with a German connection.

The German Settlements in Central Texas
From the Texas Almanac, an historical look at what brought so many German immigrants to this area.

German Free School Association of Austin
The first chartered school in Austin taught classes in English but with German as a second language. This historic building later housed the German-Texas Heritage Society and the German Free School Guild.

German Cuisine
This Austin Chronicle article is all about the Czech and German-influenced barbeque and sausage and a review of some of the best Central Texas places to feast including Meyer's Elgin Smokehouse, Kreuz Market, and the many BBQ spots in Austin.

German Culture


165 posted on 08/10/2002 12:17:09 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Czechs ain't German. Just ask Hitler. Granted the Krauts are retaking the Sudatenland. The cheap second home prices in the picturesque moutain scenary are simply too enticing.
166 posted on 08/10/2002 12:19:30 AM PDT by Torie
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To: pattycake
I am in the real world, and where did I state that I didn't believe the number was high. Of course it is high. I was talking about legal immigration should be contained to 75,000-100,000 per year, and illegal immigration should be stopped.
167 posted on 08/10/2002 12:20:22 AM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: blackbart.223
Nice try. No I am simply saying that the bulk of the socialist world is populated by Caucasians. The bulk of the Communist world is now in China. Political ideology is NOT a racial issue.
168 posted on 08/10/2002 12:20:42 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Brush_Your_Teeth
"Here on the east cost I see the flags of Italy, Ireland, Cuba ect ect. So what?"

How many American flags do you see?

169 posted on 08/10/2002 12:21:24 AM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: FreedomFriend
Please post my exact words, where I called or even inferred that you are a Klansman . I did no such thing. You are incapable of comprehending written English ; elsewise, you couldn't possibly reply to me, with such preposterous codswallop, bloviation, and libel.

I haven't " insulted you ". You'd know it, if I had done. No, I don't like what you post. I don't suffer fools lightly. You ARE " spouting off cliches "; you just won't admit it. Instead of so called PC ( I loathe PC, BTW ! ) mantras, you spew mid 19th century drivel.

170 posted on 08/10/2002 12:21:48 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Torie
Well they all look alike to me. LOL
171 posted on 08/10/2002 12:22:04 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Yes, welfare is a problem, but it only makes the problem worse. The problem is still there, without it nor not.

As far as white Europeans leading us into socialism, you may be right. However, the Mexicans and others are doing a good job of that as of right now.

172 posted on 08/10/2002 12:23:38 AM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: Torie
By the way, on the whole "the Mexicans are forcing us to conduct business in Spanish" thing.

Want to read something interesting?

Executive Order 13166, "Improving Access to Services for Persons with Limited English Proficiency."--Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Look who's shoving.

173 posted on 08/10/2002 12:24:29 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Texasforever
Slavs really do look a bit different from the Teutonic tribes, but not in Texas, where intermarriage has well, done its work.
174 posted on 08/10/2002 12:25:19 AM PDT by Torie
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To: FreedomFriend
Are you going to get around to responding to my #149 anytime soon?

I have to go to bed.
175 posted on 08/10/2002 12:25:39 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
If all Hispanics learned English, who would pick the strawberries? Just a thought.
176 posted on 08/10/2002 12:27:15 AM PDT by Torie
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To: Texasforever
My contention is that white European immigrants would lead us to socialism faster

Good point.

177 posted on 08/10/2002 12:27:50 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Don't hold your breath, my friend. He ONLY resonds to some things, ignores most things, and attempts to refute, with emotional diatribes and bloviation. :-)
178 posted on 08/10/2002 12:29:00 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Now, as I surmised, you are more than happy to have the white ( even though blacks are being starved and slaughtered too ! ) Zimbaweans and Afrikaners come here.

Oh, please, I should have known that you were using the good ol bait tactic, just like every good liberal does. Where in South Africa or Zimbabwe are the blacks being slaughtered? Are you talking about those who speak out against Mugabe? If so, that's not because of their race, but rather a corrupt government. As far as the Jews during WW2, yes, we should have helped them out sooner, but the past is the past. We can't relive it. Most of today's humanitarian aid is neither humanitarian nor aid, for it often never reaches the people, but is rather confiscated by corrupt governmental officials. Furthermore, many of today's U.S. military humanitarian missions are nothing more than UN peace-keeping forces, of which we should be involved in the first place.

179 posted on 08/10/2002 12:31:09 AM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: Texasforever
"Nice try. No I am simply saying that the bulk of the socialist world is populated by Caucasians. The bulk of the Communist world is now in China. Political ideology is NOT a racial issue."

I never said it was, you did, and still do. As far as socialism and communism is concerned look south of the border or east to Europe. You are inconsistant with your arguments.

180 posted on 08/10/2002 12:31:30 AM PDT by blackbart.223
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