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To: FreedomFriend
To: DoughtyOne

Do you get the feeling that many Americans are isane in their apathy? Is their view of the world kept only in the short term, no further than a few years?

Our government is out of control, and they DO NOT have America's best interests at heart. They make me sick.

147 posted on 8/10/02 12:33 PM Pacific by FreedomFriend
 

Your first mistake was that you assumed that everyone had a complex mind.  Some people simply don't have the tools to assess this and other issues.

In their defense there has been a concerted effort by our government, the print media and our education facilities to paint anything that focuses on one ethnic group to be racist.  If every bank rober in Los Angeles was known to be hispanic, these entities would damn anyone who mentioned that fact in reference to bank roberies.  It's unfortunate but that is the same tactic they have taken regarding the flooding of our borders.  Sadly, simple people can't see through this.

Then there's the individual who benefits directly off the backs of illegals.  I have seen posters on this forum admit that they hire illegals.  Then they list a litany of excuses why they must even thought it's a crime to do so.

Through ignorance, self-interest and apathy this nation is being damaged beyond repair.

Every once in a while, more frequently every day, I read folks stating that they wish California could be expelled from the nation.  They just hate how leftist it has become.  I and others have warned them for more than a decade that our very form of government would be undermined if they didn't join us in California to put an end to illegal immigration.  They wouldn't hear any of it.

What do these folks think will happen when California leaves the union?  As it is flooded with even more Mexican nationals, the citizens of Aztlan will then flood the borders of Arizona, Nevada and Oregon.  As their state houses become over-represented by hispanics who have been promised "goodies" by the left, those states will become candidates to leave the union as well.  And then their neighboring states will.  Where do you draw the line?  Either we take a stand or we say good-bye to the nation that we loved so dearly.

It started out, "Oh this isn't a problem."  Then it was, "California sure is leftist."  Then it was, "I sure wish we could boot California."  LOL, what a bunch of brain dead idiots.  They have supported the cries for Aztlan every step of the way.  Now they actually clamor to expel California.

As I stated in my first sentence, your first mistake was that you assumed everyone had a complex mind.  Your second mistake was that you assumed everyone with a complex mind was on your side and loved this nation.

149 posted on 08/10/2002 12:55:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
I suppose that you're right, but the way I view it, there is no compromise, there is no denying it. This is a cut and dry issue, and it doesn't take a genius to see what is happening, and the lies and manipulatory tactics being used.

I believe that we have an illegitimate government in office. Everywhere I turn, I hear calls for big government. I turn on C-Span and see some mean-faced Democrat woman up there yelling to the top of her lungs that Republicans want to take away senior's social security, medicare, and that they don't believe in prescription drugs. I think, these people aren't entitled to anything, and what you're advocating is the bloating of the federal government. I then go on to think that both parties have been corrupted, and that they're all proposing the same socialist nonsense. You've got to be severely disillusioned not to see it.

DoughtyOne, I respect your opinions immensely, for you're one of the most level-headed guys that I've seen on this forum. You speak with common sense, and it's very evident.

For whatever reasons people do no like Pat Buchanan, I will never understand. He was the best candidate for the job, and he has America's best interests at heart. How can a globalist Bush be better than an America-First Buchanan? Are these people that disillusioned by the media?

156 posted on 08/10/2002 1:48:04 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: DoughtyOne
You know I wonder if some of these 'unthinking' or 'unwilling to think' folks have been paying attention to Zimbabwe. I have. I am afraid I see the future of property owners, especially property owners, of America in the happenings there.
214 posted on 08/12/2002 8:21:04 AM PDT by nanny
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