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Court: Professor calling student 'Monica' during Clinton scandal not sexual harassment
Associated Press ^ | 8-8-02

Posted on 08/08/2002 10:10:29 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:40:41 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

NEW PALTZ, N.Y. (AP) --

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: clinton; legacy; monica; oralsex; professor
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To: ofMagog
I can think a dozen senarios where the professor's comments would have been entirely understandable, if not appropriate.

As can anyone who's ever debated a snot-nosed women's studies chip on the shoulder know it all liberal college twit.

Especially a 70 year old professor who has lived life & seen them all.

41 posted on 08/12/2002 7:32:13 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: John O; Orual; aculeus; general_re; MississippiDeltaDawg; Dawgsquat
A Republican MAY be worthless. A democrat IS ALWAYS worthless.

Not in my experience.

Question: a large number of NY firemen, perhaps most of them, are registered Democrats. Many of these men died in the line of duty on 9/11. Would you call them lacking in moral fiber, and worthless?

42 posted on 08/12/2002 7:41:59 AM PDT by dighton
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To: Hemingway's Ghost; Motherbear; Lorianne; dighton; Orual; cubreporter; LadyX
The ""piousness" of some of the posters supporting the professor remind me of Browning's "Soliloquy of the Spanish Cloister."
43 posted on 08/12/2002 7:51:24 AM PDT by ofMagog
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To: John O
You can have correct politics and still be worthless. However you will always be worthless if you have incorrect politics. See the difference?

Yes, comrade. Which reeducation camp should we send these heretics too?

44 posted on 08/12/2002 7:58:17 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: dighton
Question: a large number of NY firemen, perhaps most of them, are registered Democrats. Many of these men died in the line of duty on 9/11. Would you call them lacking in moral fiber, and worthless? Only politically. Otherwise.......no.
45 posted on 08/12/2002 8:10:54 AM PDT by Dawgsquat
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To: dighton
Would you call them (democrat firemen) lacking in moral fiber, and worthless?

Since their support for the democrat party in general and clinton in particular lead directly to the terrorist attacks on 9/11, yes I'd still call any democrat lacking in moral fiber and worthless. If these men had made better choices with their votes and their loyalty they'd still be alive.

For well over 50 years the democrats have been seeking to destroy this country. Now we've reaped some of the seeds they've sown. Even the basest of men can do good things on occasion. These good deeds however are not able to wipe away the stain of prior evil unless they repent of that evil. Any one who calls themselves democrat is still supporting the destruction of my country. Whether that destruction happens by government regulation or by terrorist attack it's the same thing

GSA(P)

46 posted on 08/12/2002 8:15:50 AM PDT by John O
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
me->You can have correct politics and still be worthless. However you will always be worthless if you have incorrect politics. See the difference?

you-> Yes, comrade. Which reeducation camp should we send these heretics too?

Obviously you don't see the difference. Let me try again. Here's two examples:

Democrats as a party support the convenience killing of unborn children. Anyone who supports the democrat party therefore supports murdering unborn babies. Anyone who supports murdering unborn babies is worthless.

Democrats as a party support special rights for sexual deviants. Anyone who supports the democrat party therefore supports sexual deviancy. Anyone who supports sexual deviancy is worthless.

You cannot support the democrat party without lending support to their platform. Therefore, even if you are personally pro-life and pro-family your support of the democrats makes your personal leaning irrelevant, you are supporting infanticide and deviancy by supporting the party. If you were a decent moral human being you'd recognize that and leave the party. Unfortunately most democrats don't care what issues the party supports as long as it keeps the welfare check or union protection in place. Democrats are almost by definition, evil.

[Now admittedly the democrats might support something that is not anti-life, anti-family, anti-American, but I don't have a clue what that would be. I have met some people who I would have considered to be good people until I found out they were democrat. I no longer associate with them because I can't stomach the damage that they are doing to my country by their support of evil]

The Republican party stands for life and the family. You can support the Republicans without disqualifying yourself from being moral. You can however still be a scumbag while supporting these things. Note that I do not count RINO's such as the log cabin crowd as republicans.

GSA(P)

47 posted on 08/12/2002 8:29:27 AM PDT by John O
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To: John O; Hemingway's Ghost; aculeus; Orual; general_re; Dawgsquat; BlueLancer; ...
Since their support for the democrat party in general and clinton in particular lead directly to the terrorist attacks on 9/11, yes I'd still call any democrat lacking in moral fiber and worthless. If these men had made better choices with their votes and their loyalty they'd still be alive.

Tell ya what. Find a Democratic NY cop or fireman -- easiest thing in the world -- and say it to his face. "You are lacking in moral fiber and worthless. So were your colleagues, killed in the line of duty."

48 posted on 08/12/2002 8:33:05 AM PDT by dighton
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To: dighton
Hopefully the fellow will wait until we get back to the States. We wouldn't want to miss this event.
50 posted on 08/12/2002 8:40:09 AM PDT by ofMagog
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To: John O
As I implied in my previous post, this women is a slut and a whore (who else would support clinton) and deserved to be treated like one.

It is possible that she is just incredibly dumb and has been indoctronated by our enormously successful publik skuls.

51 posted on 08/12/2002 8:46:02 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: dighton; John O
It's all too easy to fall into playing the lib's game by trying to demonize one's opponents - in this case, it's made even easier to label the Democratic rank-and-file as worthless and lacking in moral fiber because so much of the party leadership is exactly that. But such games are ultimately self-defeating - you'll never outslime the masters of slime, and you can't beat the people who invented the game at their own game.

Better to convince them that they are simply wrong, and that there's a better way, than to dismiss them as evil - conservatism, no matter the party appellation, is already a minority viewpoint in this country, and I see no need to marginalize ourselves further by abandoning the tools of reasoned discourse intended to persuade others to accept your point of view. Those firefighters and police are, almost to a man, registered Democrats, but in their hearts, they are natural conservatives. Telling them they lack moral fiber only serves to drive them away, when we should be embracing them as our own...

52 posted on 08/12/2002 8:47:39 AM PDT by general_re
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To: John O
Yipes. Please never reply to me again, and I'll make it a point never to try and engage you in meaningful political debate. You, sir, are beyond the pale.

53 posted on 08/12/2002 8:49:04 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: fone
Ya know... I always figure that when someone is rude to me, I can then be rude back. I could think of many retorts, not publishable here, that may have put said professor in his place. My grades may have suffered, but I sure would have had fun with him.

Once he found out he could get away with this stuff, he kept right on going. She could have done things much more effectively. Too many times we think the courts will fight our battles.
54 posted on 08/12/2002 8:51:31 AM PDT by myrabach
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To: dighton
I think it's entirely possible to distinguish between one's choice of political affiliation and one's ability to do his job well.
55 posted on 08/12/2002 9:38:34 AM PDT by Dawgsquat
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To: Itzlzha
or a level playing field.

She may or may have not been spouting nonsense but that does not make it remotely appropriate for a professor to call a 20 year old girl the equivalent of a whore repeatedly.

Just as it would not be right for a lefty prof. to ask how clan meetings are going for a student who may be against slave reparations, one shouldn't be called a whore for being a Clinton supporter. Stupid, but not necessarily a whore.

56 posted on 08/12/2002 9:49:24 AM PDT by amused
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To: John O
Your political beliefs color everything that you do. If you support clinton, as this young woman obviously did, then you agree with everything that he did to this country and the way he did it.

If this is your litmus test, how can you possibly support any candidate for anything?

57 posted on 08/12/2002 9:53:15 AM PDT by amused
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To: John O
As I implied in my previous post, this women is a slut and a whore (who else would support clinton) and deserved to be treated like one.

Wow, John. You certainly develop strong opinions based on simply a newspaper article. Have you ever found yourself to be wrong in your initial impression?

58 posted on 08/12/2002 10:07:01 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: dighton
Tell ya what. Find a Democratic NY cop or fireman -- easiest thing in the world -- and say it to his face. "You are lacking in moral fiber and worthless. So were your colleagues, killed in the line of duty."

With the union workers penchant for responding in force and with violence, I think I'd rather not. I'm correct, I'm not stupid.

That aside, his reaction or my reaction for that matter doesn't change the facts. WTC happened because of the democrat party and it's enablers.

GSA(P)

59 posted on 08/12/2002 11:13:14 AM PDT by John O
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To: one_particular_harbour
What a wonderful perspective.

The truth is always wonderful

This weekend, we had a thread about a nutbag FReeper who murdered a police officer over getting into a traffic stop. Your post shows the same kind of fanatic bravado and contempt that his did.

Funny, I don't recall saying anything about killing anyone. Is it wrong to point out that a drug overdoser dies because he chose to abuse drugs? Is it wrong to point out that SADs die of AIDS because they chose to perform homosexual behaviors? Is it wrong to say that people died because the democrats have weakened our country to the point where terrorists believed they could fly airplanes into our buildings? I don't think so.

GSA(P)

60 posted on 08/12/2002 11:18:04 AM PDT by John O
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