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Pa. woman miscarries after judge granted permission for abortion
Knight Ridder Newspapers ^ | 8.7.02 | MARIE MCCULLOUGH

Posted on 08/07/2002 7:01:26 AM PDT by victim soul

Edited on 08/07/2002 8:51:39 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: eaglebeak; TankerKC
Why? If she was going to have an abortion, she would have had the abortion, no?

Well, the injunction was issued and then reversed. I think we all know that there are things a woman can do to "force" a miscarriage. Who's to say she hadn't done something to force a miscarriage during the injunction, not knowing that it would be lifted, and once it was, it was too late?

21 posted on 08/07/2002 12:38:16 PM PDT by FreeTally
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To: Alberta's Child
What's taking a toll on her? The miscarriage? She was going to kill the child anyway, so I don't quite understand what the mother is talking about here.

Good observation!

22 posted on 08/07/2002 12:38:56 PM PDT by FreeTally
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To: sphinx
Miscarried due to stress? Watch her come forward now with a wrongful death suit. The lawyers are probably already calling.

They can't sue the judge.

23 posted on 08/07/2002 12:39:35 PM PDT by FreeTally
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To: TankerKC
TKC, I owe you an apology. It was not you who was calling the woman that name. I apologize.
24 posted on 08/07/2002 12:44:50 PM PDT by eaglebeak
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To: Alberta's Child
Apparently her pregnancy was used as a political tool. The media were all over it. That is probably what her mother was referring to.
25 posted on 08/07/2002 12:47:03 PM PDT by eaglebeak
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To: eaglebeak
Apparently her pregnancy was used as a political tool.

Gee, ya think?

26 posted on 08/07/2002 12:50:34 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: victim soul
It was reported that the medical examiner was shocked to see the extended middle fingers of both of the fetus' tiny hands....
27 posted on 08/07/2002 1:05:23 PM PDT by tracer
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To: FreeTally
Well, the injunction was issued and then reversed. I think we all know that there are things a woman can do to "force" a miscarriage.

Yep. They were done all the time before safe abortion was legal--coat hanger, etc. But I still think this is a bit of conjecture on your part.

28 posted on 08/07/2002 1:57:54 PM PDT by eaglebeak
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To: ohioman
Why are you defending this bitch of a woman who wanted to murder her child?

Your remarks are really uncalled for.   You seem rather hasty in condemning her, especially while she's barely gotten out of a hospital bed after having what seems to be a grueling miscarriage.

According to this story,  she was undecided about whether she was going to have the abortion or carry the baby.   The miscarriage started the day the court reversed its decision and she was still undecided.  

Ironically, while this was going on, the father of the child and her "best friend" were on Phil Donahue, crying and pleading, with her "friend" offering her $100,000 not to have the abortion.  You'd think a person who was this woman's best friend wouldn't be going on a talking head show, but be at her friend's side, helping her make the decision not to abortion, and to be at her friend's side at the hospital as she miscarried.  That's true friendship.  What this "friend" was offering was not.

Posted on Wed, Aug. 07, 2002 story:PUB_DESC
Even though Tanya Meyers won her legal battle to have an abortion, the 22-year-old was still undecided if she would end her 10-week pregnancy, her mother said.

She won't get the chance to make that final decision.

Hours after a judge cleared the way for Meyers to have the procedure, Meyers suffered a miscarriage and her unborn child died, said Tracey Curry, Meyers' mother.

"Emotionally, it isn't over with for her," Curry said. "It's hard for her."

The newest development in the nine-day legal battle surfaced Tuesday morning when one of Meyers' attorneys, Astra Outley, said her client was hospitalized for hemorrhaging hours after Luzerne County Court of Common Pleas Judge Michael Conahan lifted a court order barring her from ending the pregnancy.

Outley made the comments at Meyers' protection-from-abuse hearing against her ex-boyfriend, John Stachokus, who was believed to be the father of the child. County Court of Common Pleas Senior Judge Gailey Keller continued the hearing until Aug. 20. The temporary restraining order she obtained against Stachokus remains in effect, Keller said.

Outley did not disclose details of her client's hospitalization, but Curry said she took Meyers to the emergency room after Meyers hemorrhaged throughout the day on Monday. Later that night, the baby died, Curry said.

Overall, Meyers is "doing fine," but is emotionally fatigued, Curry said. The large amount of publicity the case created played a role in Meyers possibly changing her mind about having an abortion, her mother said.

"She was really undecided," Curry said.

Outley said Meyers is expected to be in the hospital until at least this morning. Wilkes-Barre General Hospital spokesman Kevin McDonald said Meyers was in stable condition Tuesday afternoon.

The case, which gained national attention, began July 29 when Stachokus secured a temporary injunction to stop Meyers from having her scheduled abortion. On Monday, five days after Conahan heard testimony on the case, the judge dismissed the injunction, clearing the way for Meyers to end her pregnancy.

Stachokus' other attorney, John Williamson, said Tuesday he was waiting for a Superior Court judge to be appointed to hear an appeal of Conahan's ruling.

Stachokus has said he was willing to care for the child and didn't want to see the infant suffer. He also said Curry pressured Meyers into having an abortion.

Meyers has said she alone decided to have the abortion after the couple's relationship soured and Stachokus threatened her, prompting her to file a protection-from-abuse order.

In court papers, Meyers said Stachokus harassed and threatened her. One of his attorneys, Vincent Cappellini, said Stachokus will vehemently deny the allegations at the upcoming hearing.

Tuesday morning also was when Stachokus first learned his former girlfriend had been hospitalized. Flanked by Cappellini and surrounded by media, Stachokus left the courtroom.

"My concerns are for Tanya," Stachokus said. "I'm praying for her. I'm praying for the child."

Williamson said several thousand dollars have been donated to offer to Meyers, hoping it would convince her to carry the baby to term and use the funds to support the child, according to Al Rende, founder of the local Fathers for Life organization, who was helping Williamson's law firm facilitate the fund-raiser.

But it is unclear now how those funds will be used, Rende said.

Regardless of how the appeal turns out, Curry said she still has some legal wranglings to pursue.

"I'm not done with it either," said Curry, who is considering whether to take legal action against Stachokus. "He had no business dragging me into this."

Meyers' attorney, Linda Rosenthal of the Center for Reproductive Law and Policy, also left the door open for the possibility of a lawsuit after "the dust has settled on this whole situation."

Curry said she was very upset when learning of the injunction, but she was relieved by Conahan's ruling. She also denied pressuring her daughter into having an abortion.

"I will support her," Curry said. "I am her mother. That's only normal."

Curry said she does not expect her daughter to quickly overcome the emotional turmoil of the past week.

"She's going to have to go to counselling."

David Weiss, a Times Leader staff writer, can be reached at 831-7397.


29 posted on 08/07/2002 2:05:13 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: FreeTally
I think we all know that there are things a woman can do to "force" a miscarriage. Who's to say she hadn't done something to force a miscarriage during the injunction, not knowing that it would be lifted, and once it was, it was too late?

I doubt if this litigation is over with--in fact, I expect a sea of litigation to come out of this. At some point, I expect her hospital records to be subpoenaed and probably made public. If it's shown that this was a miscarriage that occured because of medical reasons--for example, a malformed fetus, the placenta detaching from the uterus--you deserve to apologize to this woman. If she did something to harm her child, then I will apologize. But right now, accusing her of doing *something* to force the miscarriage is pure speculation, and quite malevolent to boot.

30 posted on 08/07/2002 2:10:20 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: eaglebeak
Why? If she was going to have an abortion, she would have had the abortion, no?

Unless she didn't want the public shame of actually having the abortion. So, she has it then claims she had a miscarriage. Just speculation on my part.

31 posted on 08/07/2002 3:16:34 PM PDT by TankerKC
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To: Ravaged Nation
"I wonder what an abortion would have done--probably would have had a family celebration. Curry is no mother. She didn't want the baby. To hell with her daughter and grandchild. God was merciful by taking the baby before she/he suffered greatly."

this is going to sound mean, but I think both the idiot so-called sperm donor and the idiot so-called mom perhaps should never be able to produce childrn again...

32 posted on 08/07/2002 3:23:32 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Catspaw
Later that night, the baby died, Curry said.

Baby? Baby?!? Having vacated this woman's womb, its hapless tenant seems to have earned the right at last to be called a baby! (And not just here: It's in the headlines about the case already printed in pro-abort mainstream papers like The Chicago Tribune, "Abortion Case Winner Loses Her Baby."). Some people here seem to be overflowing with sympathy for the supposed grief this, uh, mother has suffered. I expect she and her lawyers hope they can line up 12 of you for the next round of litigation.

33 posted on 08/07/2002 3:26:41 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: TankerKC
Speaking of which--you point to an obvious question not raised here before. Was it legal for the media to publish her name in connection with this situation in the first place?
34 posted on 08/07/2002 3:32:39 PM PDT by eaglebeak
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To: cherry
"this is going to sound mean, but I think both the idiot so-called sperm donor and the idiot so-called mom perhaps should never be able to produce children again."

I guess we're both mean, that's exactly what I was thinking. The only problem is her two-year old child existing child who gets to hear about all this.

35 posted on 08/07/2002 3:39:54 PM PDT by xJones
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To: Texas Mom
How Conveeeeeeenient..

Yeah, that's what I thought too. I wonder if this process was helped along with a little pennyroyal tea or such.

36 posted on 08/07/2002 3:57:18 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: eaglebeak
Yep. They were done all the time before safe abortion was legal--coat hanger, etc.

Coat hanger? Please. I sincerely doubt that a coat hanger was used often if at all. It would be a silly and painful way of doing the job and would lead to some serious medical complication for the woman.

There are a number of ways of inducing a miscarriage; a good half will leave no trace of anything besides possibly poor judgment.

As for "safe" abortion there is no such animal.

a.cricket

37 posted on 08/07/2002 3:58:17 PM PDT by another cricket
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To: madprof98
Having had five miscarriages myself, it's a very difficult and painful time, physically, emotionally and psychologically. Of course, you're probably going to blame me for causing those miscarriages.
38 posted on 08/07/2002 5:31:39 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: eaglebeak
I just saw the dad on O'Reilly. Dad said he was "emotionally scarred," so expect to see dad sue mom and a number of others. O'Reilly also asked if he had anything to say to the mother. He talked about hoping her health was okay-twice, I do believe--but he didn't say anything about the baby in his last statement on O'Reilly. He did say he was (I can't remember the word, but he sounded angry) upset about hearing about her miscarriage via the press, and that he wasn't notified.
39 posted on 08/07/2002 5:36:20 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Catspaw
I just saw the dad on O'Reilly. Dad said he was "emotionally scarred," so expect to see dad sue mom and a number of others. O'Reilly also asked if he had anything to say to the mother. He talked about hoping her health was okay-twice, I do believe--but he didn't say anything about the baby in his last statement on O'Reilly. He did say he was (I can't remember the word, but he sounded angry) upset about hearing about her miscarriage via the press, and that he wasn't notified.

You've thouroughly mischaracterised this guy. He wasn't the brightest bulb but he obviously was saddend by the death of his baby. There was a time when common courtesy required notifying the Dad that his baby was dead, a courtesy that wasn't extended to this fella.

40 posted on 08/07/2002 5:45:30 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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