WND banned from covering Capitol (Paul Sperry)

WorldNet Daily ^ | 8/7/02 | Joseph Farah

[ForGod'sSake]

WND is undertaking the basic mission of a press in a free society: to act as a watchdog on those in power.

FYI: Sounds like a group you might be interested in helping, no?

CCRM is a Free Republic Network affiliate working to reduce media bias.

For a comprehensive overview of Freeper thoughts on Liberal Media bias, check  out  our website by clicking on graphic, or HERE:  We call it Fairpress.org.

FGS

[The Irishman]

More news, less goofy speculation, less wild apocalyptic ramblings is what will get them accredited.

The mainstream press has no shortage of any of this. WND has a bit of it too but that is not their problem. The problem they constitute for the left and the the neocons is that they are not afraid to hold the sacred cows of political correctness harmless. Lap dog "conservatives" from the WEEKLY STANDARD would have no problem I'm sure.

[Zon]

I agree. In that context WND is trivial compared to the closed door policy that shuts out integrity and honesty of newspersons that report objectively. The way it works in the media is that if you're a reporter, journalist, or publisher you want as many doors open as possible. One does not open doors to a reporter or publisher that intends to objectively report on the crimes of the person holding the door open. Doors are only opened for media that tow the line. When a reporter or publisher steps too deep into honesty and integrity by objectively reporting their crimes the doors slam shut. Those inside hiding government crime -- there's a leviathan's worth -- then make great fanfare of boogiemen that will cause great harm to people and society. And the media parrots it to their audiences adding their own spin for good measure.  It's a colossal hoax.

With a complicit media the government hides it's crimes while pointing it's political/bureaucratic big-government power at everybody and especial targets business. Through it's attacks on business it can target science and consumers. There's a bevy of alphabet agencies/bureaucracies that politicians in congress empower to protect citizens and society from an army of boogiemen. The politicians and bureaucrats objective is their job security. Their jobs are secured by growing and advancing the leviathan. That is almost always at the expense and harm of citizens and society. By far their primary concern regarding the citizens and society is only import to the extent that they are not exposed for their crimes.

The frauds by Enron, WorldCom and all other business frauds combined barely hold a candle to the frauds behind government bureaucrats cooking the books. Parasitical politicians and self-serving bureaucrats have committed accounting and bookkeeping frauds to the tune of several trillion dollars. Yet there's been a mainstream media blind-eye blackout of those monumental crimes.

Due to government intervention citizens and society are degraded toward the lowest common denominator to the extent that government can hide the fact that it facilitates and often causes the decline towards the lowest common denominator. To them, WND is a serious threat. In that context the WND situation is anything but trivial.

That's but one example of the fox (government and mainstream media) guarding the hen house. Almost every person has been bamboozled.

Due largely to the Internet their illusion is starting to crack.

"Any propaganda-fabricated illusion foisted on people is certain to inevitably crash and burn as simultaneously the reality that was hidden beneath the illusion comes screaming into focus, ultimate justice is served up. ...Declaring the winners/citizens to prosecute the losers/politicians/bureaucrats."

"There will be no mere slap on the wrist. Instead, "we'll take over from here guys -- you're fired." For a quick accounting of government fraud consider just their accounting frauds are in the trillions of dollars. That doesn't take into account the harm and suffering they caused to innocent citizens and businesses. That massive amount of destruction warrants several orders magnitude more than a slap on the wrist to the guilty.

Still, redemption is possible. "Recall that any and all propaganda-fabricated illusions will inevitably meet similar ultimate justice. But know that there is one clear route that most guilty prosperity destroyers can take to redeem themselves. That route is for them to consult in anyway necessary as directed by a team of "Carl-Ichan" corporate raiders they bring in to clean out government waste and abuse." 103

The government leviathan's propaganda-fabricated illusion is crashing; poised to collapse like a house of cards -- the Titanic is sinking and the government string quartet is still playing. How many will grab the redeeming lifeboats? How many will go down with the ship taking a complicit media and academia with them? Most important, what can a person do to help?

[JulieRNR21]

Paul Sperry being chewed out by 'hamburger red faced' Clinton.

[Squantos]

Let me guess......does it involve a Dillon 550B or an RCBS Rockchucker ?:o)......That's what I'm doing BTW !

Stay Safe ya'll !

[tallhappy]

Go back to 91 and read it. Tell me what "preparation" means. Address it in terms of time -- past vs future.

Debka's poor english does not help them. But it is not an excuse to say they reported something they did not report.

[Travelgirl]

Reply #31 - very good!! Thanks

[tallhappy]

You are claiming Jordan has satellites?

And not even simple satellites, ones that can track small incursions?

Wow.

You really have no idea what you are talking about.

Debka may merit a lot of criticism and skepticism, but your knowledge of technology is much worse than Debka's reporting.

[tallhappy]

But please tell me how you think I could go about proving that something did NOT happen.

I addressed this point in my post. Your point here is one I acknowledged and made as well.

But you go beyond this. Neither of us can prove it either way. I am not criticizing you for saying you do not believe the story.

You go beyond that and say the story is not true and it is fabricated. There is no way you can know that.

[tallhappy]

Alert of Jordan Infiltration

Interesting. Who are the infiltrators coming from Jordan?

[snopercod]

FWIW, I agree with your assessment on FR.

But putting my "fanatic" hat on, is it just a coincidence that two people have been punished in the last two weeks for opposing janet reno and the clintons on Waco?

Jim Trafficant, and now Paul Sperry.

[Clara Lou]

No, TH, I am not saying that Jordan has satellites!!! Did you see a sentence in my post that said that??? I am saying that the US and many other nations have satellites which would have taken pictures which would have told the world that Jordan had been invaded.
Suggestion: Don't go around casting aspersions on other people's intelligence, since you apparently have very little to speak of yourself. Only an idiot would support the idea that one nation had invaded another, and the rest of the world-- except Debka-- knew nothing about it.

[Dog Gone]

Go back to 91 and read it. Tell me what "preparation" means. Address it in terms of time -- past vs future.

I will help you with your reading comprehension skills.

The Debka article describes an invasion of elite Iraqi troops. The article states that it was 1,000 to 1,500 men. These were supported by "dozens" of Iraqi fighter aircraft over "the penetration regions."

The article further goes on to describe MORE Iraqi troops on the way toward the Jordanian border.

That is why, according to Debka, the king knew he was "not dealing merely with a small-scale invasion."

You see, that means that he WAS dealing with a small-scale invasion, but he had more than that to worry about.

So, please, don't tell me that Debka didn't report an invasion. See how easy that was?

[strela]

OK, which one of you guys broke WND?

[Dog Gone]

The notion that we would allow Saddam Hussein to invade Jordan and send up "dozens of fighters" in support of it while we are enforcing the no-fly zones is utterly laughable.

However, since we can't prove to Tallhappy's satisfaction that such a ridiculous scenario did not occur, we are counseled not to call this story "a lie." By extension, we shouldn't ridicule a story in the supermarket tabloids of a baby boy born with four heads and the tail of a donkey, and certainly must not call it false.

[tallhappy]

I am saying that the US and many other nations have satellites which would have taken pictures which would have told the world that Jordan had been invaded.

And the reason you think the US would tell Jordan and the world about some infiltrators entering Jordan (assuming even a US satellite is looking for them -- very unlikely) is...?

You are very mixed up on a lot of levels.

Interestingly infiltrators in to Jordan have just been caught.

[tallhappy]

So, please, don't tell me that Debka didn't report an invasion.

Why not. They didn't.

They used the term, but it was not consistent with the actual facts they presented.

You are the one that actually can't read an article. You focus on the fluff.

The article had one interesting bit of hard info that can be assessed -- that agents crossed in to Jordan. All the other stuff about "preparations" or what the King thinks means nothing.

Debka reported these incursion or infiltrators in to Jordan last week or so. Today infiltration into Jordan has been confirmed and some infiltrators caught.

It's interesting.

Your irrational views on Debka that it should be the fount of all knowledge is also interesting.

[Dog Gone]

Okay, whatever. We see the same words, but they mean different things to us, apparently. You and I are on such totally different wavelengths that successful communication is not possible.

Have a nice day.

[tallhappy]

Funny. The words mean the same thing. It is your ability to analyze the words and separate the facts from the non-facts.

You seem to think Debka is supposed to be some word of God.

Look at the article and see what were the actual hard facts reported. You'll see it was that there were incursions and flyovers by Iraqi troops.

Look at the news over the past two years and we can see those are otally feasible events to have talen place.

Here is one article from 2000:

October 26, 2000, Thursday SECTION: GENERAL NEWS LENGTH: 818 words HEADLINE: Analysis: Iraqi troop movement causes tension in Mideast BYLINE: By MARTIN SIEFF, UPI senior news analyst DATELINE: WASHINGTON, Oct. 26

BODY: To the bland indifference of the U.S. media, but increasing alarm among moderate Arab governments, Iraqi President Saddam Hussein has deployed 100,000 troops in western Iraq that are capable of moving rapidly into neighboring Syria and Jordan.

The deployment has received considerable attention in Israel, but Israeli generals dismiss any direct military threat to their country.

On Wednesday, Maj. Gen. Giora Eiland said: "The assessment of the Israel Defense Forces is that Iraqi forces would only be able to reach Israel through Syria or Jordan in the event of a comprehensive regional war, and it seems to me that we are very far from these scenarios."

Saddam's air force is no match either for U.S. forces in the region or for Israel's air force -- the most powerful in the Middle East. If Saddam did try to move such massive forces without air cover against Israel across the open desert, they would be rapidly annihilated. However, Saddam, contrary to many Western stereotypes, is neither mad nor suicidal nor a fool. And he has always understood the political cross-currents of the Arab world extremely well. The five-division force deployed at the Al-Rutbah crossroads in Iraq's western desert represents a serious threat to neighboring Jordan and Syria, both of which are now ruled by strongly pro-Western, but highly inexperienced young leaders. And both countries have potential majorities with longstanding resentments against their governments that Saddam may be able to take advantage of. Syria's Assad only succeeded his father, tough, ruthless, old President Hafez Assad, this year; Jordan's King Abdullah II only succeeded his father King Hussein last year. Both are in their 30s. Both are entranced by the potential future that the Internet and high-tech development may offer to jumpstart their moribund economies and raise the living standards of their impoverished people.

But Assad presides over a government dominated by his Alawite minority religious sect that remains fearful of Islamic fundamentalist popular revenge ever since Hafez Assad literally flattened the city of Hama to crush an Islamic revolt in 1982. At least 20,000 people -- and probably twice as many -- died in that event.

Also, Assad faces a formidable challenge from his uncle, Rifaat Assad, the former longtime Syrian secret police chief who now runs a major Arab world cable television network. He is believed to still control major smuggling routes through Lebanon's Bekaa Valley and remains a respected, and feared, force in the region.

King Abdullah has domestic tensions to worry about, too. More than 60 percent of Jordan's population is Palestinian in origin, and is inflamed with frustration and rage over the king's -- and their own -- inability to directly support Palestinians rising in protest against Israel west of the Jordan River. Some 120 Palestinians and less than 10 Israelis have been killed so far in four weeks of clashes.

Saddam enjoys immense popularity in Jordan, especially among the Palestinians. Their support forced even tough, respected old King Hussein to support Iraq after it conquered oil-rich Kuwait in 1990. If Saddam were able to use the escalating violence between Israel and the Palestinians as sufficient excuse to move his massive western desert force into either Syria or Jordan --or both -- he could then use it to stir up popular anger against either government very fast.

Israeli Middle East analyst Ron Ben-Yishai wrote in the Tel Aviv daily newspaper Yediot Aharonot Wednesday: "A large-scale escalation would give Iraq a pretext to ask (for) territory (from both countries) to threaten Israel. At this point, neither the Syrian president nor the Jordanian king has any attention of allowing Iraq to enter their country."

But Ben-Yishai continued, "Saddam, however, believes that in the event of a conflagration, Bashar and Abdullah would be hard-put to turn him down."

Right now, Jordan appears to be more immediately at risk. Ben-Yishai, apparently relying on Israeli military intelligence sources, says that Saddam has already "sent an advance force of the Republican Guard's Hammurabi elite division to area H3, a few dozen kilometers away from the Jordanian border."

Laurie Mylroie, a U.S. biographer of Saddam and U.S. expert on Iraq, writes that "Iraq has never (before) conducted training exercises like this."

She also noted that the huge force deployment had to be seen in the context of "the widespread unrest in Arab countries, including Jordan, triggered by the Palestinian violence."

And then she pointedly asked: "What if Iraq is acting in concert with Jordan's enemies -- like the Palestine Liberation Organization (led by Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat) or the Jordanian Islamists, with whom Saddam has long cultivated ties?"

Good questions indeed. It may not be long before the world sees their answers.

That's one from prior and it is not from Debka.

You really think Iraqi troops never enter Jordan or planes flyover. Iraqi incursions in to Turkey and Saudi Arabia were reported aound the same time. There were even deaths in the Saudi incursions.

There is an old saying, "sell the sizzle, not the steak".

You look too much at Debka's sizzle but not at the steak.

The ironic thing is you are the one taking Debka seriously.

[Dog Gone]

You seem to think Debka is supposed to be some word of God.

That, of course, is the complete opposite of what I have been saying, which only confirms my earlier conclusion regarding communication. It is futile.

Believe whatever "news" sources you like. I do not care.