[HAL9000]

Rumsfeld probably has steam coming out of his ears over this leak. I hope he can find out who leaked it and mete out the appropriate punishment. And the particular morons at the Rand Corporation who delivered this idiotic proposal should be banned from stepping foot in the Pentagon again.

Speaking of the Rand Corporation, I participated in a telephone survey they were doing a few weeks ago. The final set of questions was - had I considered stocking up on Cipro lately?

[LarryM]

Why was the proposal idiotic? Rumsfeld was only mad because it was leaked. It may have been leaked deliberately to put the Saudis on notice.

[sharktrager]

Actually, I agree w/ Rummy, but for a different reason.

I believe the US and the Saudi's are playing the same game. Both are pretending to be friends and allies on the surface, but know that there ill be a time when they'll throw down. Right now both receive certain benefits from the farce.

Neither side wants their plan to be public, even if it is painfully obvious.

[ffrancone]

And the particular morons at the Rand Corporation who delivered this idiotic proposal should be banned from stepping foot in the Pentagon again.

I am curious as to why you think a proposal citing the Saudi's as acting contrary to US interests on a wide range of terrorism related issues is 'idiotic.' Seems to me there is a lot of evidence supporting the report.

[babygene]

I guess since the Rand Corporation is a corporation they can say or leak anything they want.

To me, it sounds right on target.

[gcruse]

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld says it's
"clearly harmful'' to make public a report criticizing
Saudi Arabia.

Harmful in the same way the head of the Drug War
characterized Canada's move to lessen the penalties
for possessing marijuana.  "It may force us to
reexamine our position."   Dangerous, indeed.

[SerpentDove]

>>And the particular morons at the Rand Corporation who delivered this idiotic proposal should be banned from stepping foot in the Pentagon again. <<

I presume you have read the report?

[Mind-numbed Robot]

I was a real fan (pun intended) of Sally Rand, the founder.

[Thud]

Looks more like a means of distracting attention from the pending invasion of Iraq.

[TheBattman]

You know, sometimes the truth hurts!

[fogarty]

Who cares what the Saudis think? Does Rummy actually even think they can be trusted? The Bush administration is foolish if they do not know what the vast majority of military and most of the US already feel: Saudi Arabia is an enemy. They are the foundation of the entire Islamic terrorist movement.

[oldvike]

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[daniel boob]

I'm trying to figure out why the folks at Rand are morons. It seems to me that they're probably right. Saudi allows us access for military purposes, keeps a good diplomatic relationship, and seems to be a friend.

It seems though, that they are harboring, and maybe training, terriosts. I think in the end, when we begin to broaden the scope of the terriost hunt, as Rumsfield as suggested, that we will be in a difficult situation with Sauid Arabia because of this duality.

Am I wrong?

[Mr. Jeeves]

Rumsfeld probably has steam coming out of his ears over this leak.

I have a pet theory (wishful thinking?) that the forthcoming attack on Iraq will also involve a Saudi front.

[Stavka2]

Yes, how absolutely evil of them to speak sense and point the finger where all the bought politicos don't dare. But even you will get the point after the next terror bomb goes off and its Saudies doing it again.....well maybe.

[pgkdan]

Rummy's mad because the report leaked. He knows that every word in that report is true. Saudi Arabia is our enemy and we should admit it and start dealing with it.

[NetValue]

One of the primary benefits of diplomacy is that by using its language and techniques, nations and leaders do not have to face up to and deal with the truth.

In the war on terrorism we have lost touch with the truth. Some of the big lies: Arafat is not a "terrorist"; Saudi Arabia is a friend; Iran is becoming moderate; Islam is a peaceful religion.

We are burying our national righteousness in lies. We are losing our way.

Message to politicians on both sides: State the facts. Face the facts. Act upon the facts. Act alone if you must, but for God's sake, act.

Make the world safe for truth, justice and the American way.