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Briefing Depicted Saudis as Enemies
The Washington Post ^ | Tuesday, August 6, 2002 | Thomas E. Ricks

Posted on 08/05/2002 8:21:29 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

A briefing given last month to a top Pentagon advisory board described Saudi Arabia as an enemy of the United States, and recommended that U.S. officials give it an ultimatum to stop backing terrorism or face seizure of its oil fields and its financial assets invested in the United States.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: middleeast; pentagon; saudiarabia; saudis; terror
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To: teletech
When you go to war and win, you don't need a 'case'.
61 posted on 08/05/2002 10:05:27 PM PDT by duckln
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To: Shermy
I'd love to see the justice enacted by the non-Saudi workers after all the sodomizing, raping and beatings, even to death, they have endured.

The Saudis are a vicious, pathetic nation who deserve to have their existence wiped out.

62 posted on 08/05/2002 10:12:06 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: thegreatbeast
Without the monies provided by oil, where would the continuing funding for jihad come from ?

Read post #52 for further arguments.

63 posted on 08/05/2002 10:16:34 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: swarthyguy
"the kernel of evil, the prime mover, the most dangerous opponent" in the Middle East.

So, so nice to see that line in print.

64 posted on 08/05/2002 10:27:31 PM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: MinorityRepublican
Here is my take on what the White House is thinking -

Relations with the Saudis, Kuwaitis, etc. will remain nominally friendly, and there won't be any nuking of Mecca or any of the other insane suggestions floating around on this thread.

But we understand the reason the Saudis and Kuwaitis oppose U.S. action against Saddam Hussein - when we depose Saddam Hussein, we will have control Iraq's oil fields, and that will hurt their cartel.

As the supply increases from the Iraqi fields, the prices of oil will drop, and that will help the U.S. economy while reducing our dependence on those other countries for our energy supply.

Now, there could be a temporary shortage during the conflict. It would have been useful to have gotten rid of Hugo Chavez before the action begins, but that's the breaks. So before the conflict begins, the strategic reserves will be replenished at least to the levels that existed prior to Clinton's depletion of them before the 2000 election. We will draw down from that, and Saddam will be gone before the reserve is empty.

Once the U.S. has control of the Iraqi supply, it will be time to deal with the Israeli-Palestinian problem without the threat of an Arab oil boycott that could devastate the economy and put a Democrat back in the White House.

After Saddam is gone, it will be possible to start bringing a sense of order and rationality to the Middle East.

65 posted on 08/05/2002 10:38:15 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: Publius

Is that for real? How many is "several"?

I've been hoping some of those really militant Saudi Wahabi clerics would be dispatched to meet Allah....

66 posted on 08/05/2002 10:40:44 PM PDT by ChuxsterS
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To: MinorityRepublican
Time it took to identify Saudi Arabia as our enemy after 9-11:

Many Freepers ---- 48 hours

Most Freepers ---- 45 days

Most Americans --- 90 days

The US gummint with 8456 gazillon computers, 2345 "analysts" and intelligence experts, the Library of Congress, the FBI, the NSA, the CIA, the State Department, Military Intelligence, Spy planes, several copies of the koran --- almost a year.

What's wrong with this picture?

67 posted on 08/05/2002 11:16:08 PM PDT by Publius6961
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To: swarthyguy
There goes the Saudi tourist traffic.

This can't even be a bad joke.
Saudi Arabia does not allow tourism.

A redundancy, albeit an real one.

68 posted on 08/05/2002 11:25:14 PM PDT by Publius6961
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To: HAL9000
"After Saddam is gone, it will be possible to start bringing a sense of order and rationality to the Middle East."

There is no possible hope of bringing a sense of order or rationality to the Middle East.

The only possibilities are containment or destruction.Reality sometimes sucks, doesn't it?

69 posted on 08/05/2002 11:28:04 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: Publius6961
SHould have been clear. Saudi tourist traffic as into Orlando, for example. apparently a big destination for Saudis, in addition to the rest of the world.
70 posted on 08/05/2002 11:31:45 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
Oh, I see.
Black humor.

New York Muslim tourists...

They seem to just hate to take taxis into Manhattan.

71 posted on 08/05/2002 11:44:30 PM PDT by Publius6961
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To: sarasmom
There is no possible hope of bringing a sense of order or rationality to the Middle East. The only possibilities are containment or destruction.Reality sometimes sucks, doesn't it?

No, those are not the only possibilities.

Realities change. Don't underestimate President Bush's ability to formulate a good plan and get positive results. A year or two from now, the reality could be quite different.

72 posted on 08/06/2002 12:28:56 AM PDT by HAL9000
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To: MinorityRepublican
Pentagon spokeswoman Victoria Clarke said in a written statement issued last night. "Saudi Arabia is a long-standing friend and ally of the United States. The Saudis cooperate fully in the global war on terrorism and have the Department's and the Administration's deep appreciation."

That'll scare 'em!
73 posted on 08/06/2002 3:51:10 AM PDT by self_evident
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To: HAL9000
Regarding the "oil shortage" that everyone is predicting will inevitably follow an Iraqi war. Immediately after the bombs started dropping in the Persian Gulf war the price of oil came down. This was despite the fact that both Iraqi and Kuwati production was off the market.

This time around, barring a WMD attack on Kuwait, their production will probably be increased, at the behest of the Americans. Production of the emirates will also be increased. That leaves Saudi Arabia. They need the money, it is doubtful that they can afford to drop their production.

The USAF and the USN will be tasked with keeping the Gulf open to shipping, a job they did ten years ago with fewer bases and worse logistics. The strategic reserve will be around to pick up the slack in case a tanker or two is caught in the crossfire. Don't bet on an oil shortage.

74 posted on 08/06/2002 4:14:08 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: steveegg
Slight problem with that analysis; the House of Saud IS the fundies.

No they're not. They are, however, scared sh**less. They've been trying to out fundy the fundies, in order to steal their thunder, but the threat still lies outside the regime in Wahabi nutcases. Clearly, this approach isn't going to work in the long term (especially if American buildings keep on getting blown up by Saudis), and we've got to make that clear to Prince Abdullah. Either he declares war on Saudi radicalism, or we find someone else who will.

75 posted on 08/06/2002 6:08:18 AM PDT by andy_card
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To: Publius
Taking the oil fields is inevitable because we can’t allow the oil weapon to be wielded by an enemy. Once here was a Soviet Union to prevent us from making such a power play. Now there is no one.

Once we've taken the oil fields, and hung all the sheiks and mullahs, the danger will come from the corrupting influence of all that power and control over wealth will have on the US government

Then again, they're pretty far along that path even without the oil fields

76 posted on 08/06/2002 6:27:46 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: AM2000
Why don't we bomb their oil fields and start drilling in our frozen marshland?

If we bombed the crap out of their revenue generators they'd fall flat on their turbaned heads. When's the last time you picked up an article in the store that had "Made In Saudi Arabia" stamped on it?

These people are incapable of doing anything other than sending insane muslims out to commit suicide in the hope of nailing 50 virgins as reward for their martyrdom.

They also rape many female children.

77 posted on 08/06/2002 6:39:14 AM PDT by elcaudillo
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To: MinorityRepublican
So we're going to treat them as they are our enemies?

Lord, I hope so! It's about damn' time someone spoke the TRUTH about the Saudi's!!

Every mosque built around the world is a safe haven for Terrorists. I call it a safe haven because every country in the world "recognizes" Islam as a religion when it is truly a cult of death, no better than that of Jim Jones and other cults like it.

In addition, every mosque built around the world is built with - SAUDI MONEY. The reality is, Saudi's pay to have these mosque's built knowing that they will be used as terrorist havens and in addition, to gather funds for funding terrorist training camps. So called "Islam" as a religion is a despot cult, with no finances or means to finance the building of these mosques. The Wall Street Journal documented this several months back (and I'll post it later since it's on my h.d. @ home) for all the world to see.

The Saudi's ARE our #1 enemy. Followed closely by China and North Korea, then Iraq.

If we want to strike at the HEART of terrorism which are in fact the MONEY used to fund and sponsor it, we'd seize the oil fields in Saudi Arabia that they STOLE from us via their own "Nationalization" of them back in the late 60's-early 70's and simply froze their assets here in the U.S.

It's time to implement the "kick their a$$ and take their gas" policy. They've truly got it coming.

78 posted on 08/06/2002 6:48:29 AM PDT by usconservative
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To: Former Proud Canadian
The USAF and the USN will be tasked with keeping the Gulf open to shipping, a job they did ten years ago with fewer bases and worse logistics. The strategic reserve will be around to pick up the slack in case a tanker or two is caught in the crossfire. Don't bet on an oil shortage.

However, I would bet upon a panicked surge in prices for a while. The market price of oil would rise due to traders' fears of a supply interruption.

Give them a few weeks, and prices will come back down to "normal." (I'm still waiting to see gasoline for 99.9 cents per gallon like it was when I was younger...)

The USN will keep the tankers safe. There is no doubt of that.

79 posted on 08/06/2002 7:52:39 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Don't bet on an oil shortage.

Since we're planning ahead, there shouldn't be a major supply problem.

But there could be a shape spike in the price of gasoline for a few weeks.

80 posted on 08/06/2002 8:22:15 AM PDT by HAL9000
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