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Briefing Depicted Saudis as Enemies
The Washington Post ^ | Tuesday, August 6, 2002 | Thomas E. Ricks

Posted on 08/05/2002 8:21:29 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

A briefing given last month to a top Pentagon advisory board described Saudi Arabia as an enemy of the United States, and recommended that U.S. officials give it an ultimatum to stop backing terrorism or face seizure of its oil fields and its financial assets invested in the United States.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: middleeast; pentagon; saudiarabia; saudis; terror
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To: Husker24
I dont believe a word of it, the U.S will never sieze their oil fields. This sounds too good to be true.

Well, we can always dream. :-)

21 posted on 08/05/2002 8:39:24 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
I'll settle with the Saudi oil fields' destruction, but that oil is SOOOO tempting.
22 posted on 08/05/2002 8:40:26 PM PDT by steveegg
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To: MinorityRepublican
There is no doubt within the Administration that Iraq is going to be ours fairly soon. It's inevitable. Likewise, when the Iranian people depose the mullahs, we'll be invited in to help get them on the right track.

The big question was, "What's next after Iraq and Iran?"

This article answers the question.

23 posted on 08/05/2002 8:41:21 PM PDT by Publius
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To: MinorityRepublican
Heck, if we wanted to, we can probably take over Saudi Arabia with the troops that we have right now

i agree. my business dealings with the saudis suggests that these are a very low-self-esteem people. they cannot agree on much of anything and have difficulty with this 'trust' thing. i doubt that they could muster any serious army to defend themselves.

on the other hand, i would rather utilize our troops to oust sodom. once the saudis get a dose of 'encouragement' and good old american 'law', i think that they will be easier to deal with...

24 posted on 08/05/2002 8:41:23 PM PDT by mlocher
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To: MinorityRepublican
Agreed. Bush needs to make another major speech or two as circumstances warrant to explain this.

In a way we are in a win-win situation. If (when) we invade Iraq, the Islamists are under severe pressure to retaliate on a significant scale. If they do so, we will unleash hell on them, and we will have all the justification we need to seize oil fields as the prizes of war. If they can't effectively respond, we dismantle them piece by piece.

In a way Bush can't lose either, because his enemies hold such preposterous positions that they are withered by the plainspoken truth. Bush is a simple man, but all he has to do is defend the record and moral standing of western civlization against those of two-bit Islamic dictatorships. The democratic opposition is warped and anti-American in impulse and action ,if not rhetoric. They will continually be stumped as Bush states obvious but rarely spoken facts in defense of the American people and way of life while the socialists cavil and quake.

25 posted on 08/05/2002 8:47:31 PM PDT by Monti Cello
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To: Monti Cello
In a way we are in a win-win situation. If (when) we invade Iraq, the Islamists are under severe pressure to retaliate on a significant scale. If they do so, we will unleash hell on them, and we will have all the justification we need to seize oil fields as the prizes of war. If they can't effectively respond, we dismantle them piece by piece.

Yes, this is a very good situation we're in. If we get the opportunity, how long do you think we will keep the oil fields for? I propose holding on the oil fields until our national debt is paid off!

One thing for sure, on this day next year, things will be dramatically different in the middle east!

26 posted on 08/05/2002 8:51:12 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Publius
The big question was, "What's next after Iraq and Iran?"

Do you think President Bush have guts to go after Saudi Arabia? I mean didn't he just recieve the Prince at his ranch a while ago?

27 posted on 08/05/2002 8:53:40 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
When Bush reads this he's going to be ticked off. He said they were peace loving people.
28 posted on 08/05/2002 8:53:46 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: MinorityRepublican
Let Saddam fight it out with Saudi Arabia ... remove the troops and give him the nod ... after they beat each other senseless, they will BOTH be a lot easier to deal with ... and which side will the rest of the Arab world be cheering for? ... it could get interesting ...
29 posted on 08/05/2002 8:57:02 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: Thud
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30 posted on 08/05/2002 8:57:12 PM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: B4Ranch
When Bush reads this he's going to be ticked off. He said they were peace loving people.

LOL! Even if you think somebody in the administration reads Free Republic (I dunno) Bush is just putting on an act because he has a master plan that he's following.

32 posted on 08/05/2002 8:58:23 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
It is nice to dream, isn't it? I bet you are lonley being the only conservative in MA!
33 posted on 08/05/2002 9:01:43 PM PDT by AdA$tra
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To: MinorityRepublican
I've suspected for a long while now that Saudi money is funding AL Qaeda and I believe Saudi money funded the attack on the USA on 9/11. I hope this administration has the proof it needs in case it does decide to go after the Saudis.


The REAL enemy??

34 posted on 08/05/2002 9:01:46 PM PDT by teletech
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To: teletech
You got that right, that guy should be #1 on President Bush's hit list!
35 posted on 08/05/2002 9:06:36 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Husker24
I dont believe a word of it, the U.S will never sieze their oil fields.

Never is a long time. If it looks like our economy is going to grind to a halt you can bet we will. We aren't going to just sit here with a bunch of non-moving automobiles and no US politician is going to let us stand in gasoline lines for more than a month or two just because the Saudis think we should. Liberal philosophy is less important than liberal reelection.

We're not going to seize the oilfields for any minor reason, but I'm fairly confident that we would when the cars are sitting on the side of the interstate. Even the Democrats don't feel like running for re-election when the voters have to walk to the polls.
36 posted on 08/05/2002 9:09:25 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: MinorityRepublican
The article used "neoconservative" three times. Henry Kissinger, fresh from defending China against American interference, leapt to the defense of Saudi Arabia.

The Saudis gave us Khobar Towers, Osama and his Fifteen Thieves, the Jerry Lewis Telethon for Murderous Terror Bombers, the Saudi United Fund for Anti-Israel Madrassahs, and the Prince Abdullah "Keepa You Women Handsa Offa My Plane!" and so much more!

Will the band of tittering chipmunks in Foggy Bottom buy a clue where the Opeckers are concerned?

It is devoutly to be wished that this month-long "vacation" is Bush putting the finishing touches on the kiss-off to Saddam and the rest of the pygmies in the region.

Let Daschle and Hillary and the rest of the jellyfish be so disoriented and deflated by his brilliance and elan that they are soundly defeated in November and cannot find their shoes by '04.

So let it be written; so let it be done.

Saudi Arabia delenda est--Neoconus II, Emperor of All Red States

37 posted on 08/05/2002 9:11:04 PM PDT by PhilDragoo
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To: MinorityRepublican
You got that right, that guy should be #1 on President Bush's hit list!

Well. I would hope we have built an airtight case for whatever we do in the ME. The fact that MOST of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudis tells me we might need to re-think our relationship with that country at the very least.

38 posted on 08/05/2002 9:13:15 PM PDT by teletech
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To: MinorityRepublican
So we're going to treat them as they are our enemies?

No, we can't since our "great leader" has too many "ties" to the House of Saud. While it would be in the best interest of the U.S.A. to treat them as such, our congress and executive branch is owned lock, stock and barrel by the House of Saud.

39 posted on 08/05/2002 9:13:35 PM PDT by Kobyashi1942
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To: MinorityRepublican
Henry Hyde has proposed a Marshall Plan for the Middle East. Remember, the original Marshall Plan only occurred after the total defeat and occupation of Nazi Germany. So let’s put the Rand study and Hyde’s bill in perspective.

My conclusion is that the American conquest and occupation of the oil-bearing lands of the Middle East -- the hostile takeover of OPEC -- is on schedule. Maps will be redrawn as nations are merged or split apart by American command. The former Iraq will eventually end up as the Palestinian homeland.

Once this is done, there is only one way to prevent decades of terrorism aimed at us -- drag the Arab world kicking and screaming into the 21st Century. It means jump-starting their economies the way we did with West Germany in the early Fifties. Once that happens and a technocratic middle class is created, a path is set for the absorption of Western culture, and the Arabs will be assimilated.

Rand put together a 35 year plan much like this for the shah in 1954. The shah’s goal was to follow the path of West Germany. By 1989, had he lived, his goal was to abdicate and turn Iran over to his son as a constitutional monarchy on the British model. By then, he and Rand felt, there would be a technocratic middle class that could support self-rule. Of course, he miscalculated and gave us Khomenei.

Taking the oil fields is inevitable because we can’t allow the oil weapon to be wielded by an enemy. Once here was a Soviet Union to prevent us from making such a power play. Now there is no one.

During the first and second oil shocks in the Seventies, the Arab leaders talked about using that windfall to enhance the wealth and welfare of their peoples. Instead, they bought arms to defend themselves from each other and wasted the rest of it on liquor and whores.

The eventual goal is to take the oil fields and handle the distribution of the oil money the way it should have been done in the first place. We’ll try to win hearts and minds by winning wallets first. The goal is to have the occupied Arabs view us the way the Germans and Japanese did by the Fifties.

I would assume that once we merge Saudi Arabia into our new secular Arab “democracy” – under American and Israeli supervision – we will be helping extremist mullahs and religious radicals meet the 72 virgins, in a pattern reminiscent of de-Nazification.

Yes, the conquest of Saudi Arabia is inevitable. If we don't, the festering sore of Wahhabism will continue to threaten us.

40 posted on 08/05/2002 9:14:42 PM PDT by Publius
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