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1 posted on 08/05/2002 3:55:48 AM PDT by kattracks
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2 posted on 08/05/2002 3:57:52 AM PDT by Batwoman
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To: kattracks
the U.S. Department of Energy was working to get America’s strategic petroleum reserve up to its full capacity of 700 million barrels

Remind me again (since the media won't), who decided to bring those levels down in a vote-getting scheme in the northeastern part of the US?

3 posted on 08/05/2002 3:57:54 AM PDT by zandtar
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To: American in Israel
What is your perspective on this?
9 posted on 08/05/2002 4:22:00 AM PDT by 2sheep
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To: kattracks; Diogenesis
Ping to Dio.

I like the way this article paints the "only veteran cabinet member" as the dove.

In fact, I don't know any veterans in my family that are gung-ho for half-way war. This article makes my favorite Rummy sound like a tinkerer that thinks he can get more Afghanistan results on the cheap.
12 posted on 08/05/2002 5:58:04 AM PDT by sam_paine
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Newsweek reports this week that although the war with Iraq has not begun, "So far the big battles are in Washington, not Baghdad."

having read the article, i am not sure that i agree with this headline. disagreement is to be expected within a tightly knit team during the problem definition and problem solution stage. each player needs to assertively get his perspective and the data he is aware of, on the table.

so near as i can tell, there is no argument about strategy; the debate is on tactics. that is, nobody is arguing if iraq should be invaded in this article, but rather they are arguing how iraq should be invaded.

these are team players and once a decision is reach, expect everyone to rally around, defend, and make happen, the decision.

shame on newsweek for putting the anti-bush, anti-american slant on this story. this is yet another example of the news media trying to undermine public opinion on the war against terrorism.

13 posted on 08/05/2002 6:38:11 AM PDT by mlocher
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The perfumed generals are professionals. If "fighting" is not of their liking, all they have to do is resign and walk away. That never happens, they love that power. Fighting generals never get to the top, Powell proved that.
15 posted on 08/05/2002 6:46:45 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: kattracks
Shouldn't Cheney be considered a combat vet as secretary of defense during the 1991 Gulf War? Someone had to be at the top.
17 posted on 08/05/2002 7:14:47 AM PDT by blam
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To: kattracks
What I think is interesting, is that both sides can be right, and the solution is somewhere in the middle. To support the SECDEF and VP is the Principal of War, Economy of Force. In addition, the book, One More Bridge to Cross: Lowering the Cost of War talks about using too many troops leads to more casualties.

However, the time NOT find out you need more is when it isn't there as what happened during Anaconda with Fire Support.

Of course regardless of which it decided, the Monday Morning quarterbacks could improve on it.

19 posted on 08/05/2002 7:37:20 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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1. General McClellan Powell apparently missed the lesson about economy of force while at OCS and staff college.

2. We don't have the same military in 2002 that we did in 1991. We are down to 10 Army divisions and 3 Marine divisions, and committing 250K soldiers to an operation in Iraq would make us extremely vulnerable elsewhere.

3. The reference to Powell's military experience is a logical fallacy of the appeal-to-authority type. Anyone with a passing knoweldge of military history could name dozens--nay hundreds--of people with combat experience who had no strategic sense or insight whatsoever. Moreover, one common deficiency among professional soldiers is that their experience so dominates their thinking that it blinds them to changes that make this experience less relevant, and can prove to be a liability in the face of important technological and doctrinal changes--the "fighting the last war" problem.

4. Saddam's only real threat to us is his bio and chem warfare capability. This threat is greater when we mass our forces and take a long time to build them up (a la 1991). Reliance upon speed, maneuver, stealth, and deception in lieu of massive force will minimize our vulnerability to this type of threat. Powell's preferred approach would maximize it.

Rumsfeld et al advocate substituting imagination, information dominance, and technology for numbers. This exploits our comparative advantage. Overwhelming force need not require overwhelming numbers.

Powell seems mired in the past, unable to escape the bounds of his own experience. He is an exemplar of a longstanding tradition in the US Army that advocates reliance on mass to achieve victory and distrusts operational innovation or risk-taking--see Russell F. Weigley's Eisenhower's Lieutenants for a devastating critique of this mindset. He is a Bradley, not a Patton. This is not a compliment. (See Victor Davis Hanson's review of Carlo D'Este's new Eisenhower biography in the most recent National Review or his recent book that has some pretty revealing things to say about Bradley--and which come eerily close to describing Powell.)

22 posted on 08/05/2002 8:00:34 AM PDT by financeprof
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To: kattracks
May God bless Powell for his stance. No more vague, fruitcake, military actions like Viet Nam, the Balkins, no more Black Hawk Downs.

Presidents should not be allowed to play with the state of military readiness, and congress should not be allowed to either. There should be a standard that no politican is allowed to mess with.

24 posted on 08/05/2002 8:08:24 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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52 posted on 08/05/2002 2:45:18 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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