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Sweden's Shame: Liberal Swedenis about to make criticism of homosexuality a crime
World Magazine ^ | August 10 issue | Gene Edward Veith

Posted on 08/03/2002 11:01:50 PM PDT by Mr. Mulliner

Sweden's shame

Liberal Sweden, supposedly a land of tolerance, is about to make criticism of homosexuality a crime

By Gene Edward Veith

Sweden is the liberal utopia. Confiscatory taxes fund a cradle-to-grave welfare state, with "free" health care, job security, and government regulation for all. Sexual freedom is taken for granted, to the point that the majority of Swedish couples live together without being married, and the majority of children are born out of wedlock.

Sweden has become so tolerant that it is taking the next step: prosecuting those whom it considers intolerant, even if this means throwing out freedom of speech and freedom of religion. The Swedish parliament has passed a constitutional amendment that would make it a crime to teach that homosexual behavior is immoral.

The Swedish constitution affirms freedom of expression but makes exceptions. "Freedom of expression and freedom of information may be restricted," says the constitution, under certain circumstances, including speech that would "imply the unfavorable treatment of a citizen because he belongs to a minority group by reason of race, color, or ethnic origin" (Chapter 2, Articles 13 & 15). The amendment, which must be approved by one more vote after the new parliament convenes in September, adds "sexual orientation" to that list of groups that must not be subject to "unfavorable" speech.

Sweden's Criminal Code already has laws against "insulting" or "agitating against" minorities. The constitutional amendment, if approved, would go into effect in January, effectively outlawing the teaching that homosexuality is morally wrong. A pastor, for example, who teaches what the Bible says about homosexual sin could go to prison for up to four years.

Despite, or perhaps because of, the Swedish culture's hostility to Christianity, that country has a vibrant Christian community. Remnants of the hopelessly liberal state church, abolished in 2000, remain, but as many as one-third of the pastors in the Lutheran Church of Sweden are conservative. There are also many independent churches, Lutheran, Pietist, Baptist, Pentecostal, as well as Roman Catholics and Orthodox. Swedish evangelicals are known throughout Europe for their evangelistic zeal, particularly in sending missionaries to the former Communist states.

The new law would presumably outlaw the use of the Roman Catholic catechism, which teaches that homosexuality is a sin, as well as the teachings of Islam. (Sweden's ultra-tolerant immigration policies have brought in some 300,000 Muslims.) As Swedish Christians understand the law, they would be allowed to quote the Scriptures, but they would not be allowed to say that what the Scriptures teach on the matter is applicable today. If they do, they could go to prison.

The new law is only one front in the Swedish establishment's war against Christianity and other conservative religions. Conservative pastors and Christian schools report constant harassment by government officials.

Indeed, parental rights-like other "family values"-have gone the way of the Viking ships. Spanking one's child is a criminal offense. The government tells children to turn in their parents if they attempt to punish them. The government has taken away children from Christian parents on trumped-up child-abuse charges, because of even mild exercises of physical discipline.

Organizations ranging from Amnesty International to the United Nations oppose human-rights abuses, and the United States regularly slaps sanctions on nations that violate human rights.

Persecution of Christians around the world has gained new attention. China, Sudan, Iran, Indonesia, and other Muslim and African nations have been the most noted offenders, and have received widespread condemnation for their anti-Christian oppression. But will white, European, progressive Sweden face the same kind of sanctions and international condemnation if they start imprisoning people for disapproving of homosexuality? Sweden is a member of the European Union, whose founding documents commit member nations to human rights and to policies of religious tolerance. Will the EU discipline Sweden if it amends its constitution to allow religious persecution?

Will the United States lodge a statement of concern or of protest, through the State Department or the American Consulate or a resolution from Congress, to discourage the new parliament from ratifying the new law? We do that sort of thing to Israel, when it mistreats Palestinians, and to Serbia, when it mistreats its religious minorities. When the offenses are particularly flagrant, we cut off trade against the oppressive nation. Should we not give Sweden the same treatment?

More importantly, is Sweden just slightly ahead of where the United States will be in a few years? Will anti-discrimination laws, which punish external actions, develop into laws that punish inner convictions and beliefs? Will the desire to be tolerant mutate into an oppressive intolerance against intolerance?



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: christian; gay; homosexuality; pervert; sasu; socialism; tolerance; uhohboat
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To: JMJ333
"It will eventually come to this here"

IMHO, we are close to that in California.

I have been fired from a job because my flaming gay boss didn’t like my family values. He liked to talk about picking up guys and I liked to talk about family picnics. I could tell I was on the way out because we could discuss business but never to his satisfaction it seems he wanted to pack the office with more fun loving boys. My next job by a strange coincidence I wound up with a gay boss again and I kept my mouth shut but left for other reasons.

Where I work today they make every accommodation for the Muslims that work there (Ramadan, and daily prayer times) and we have benefits for domestic partners. I don’t speak publicly about anything conservative and I guard my private life.
21 posted on 08/04/2002 8:25:31 AM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe
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To: Orual; dighton; general_re
So why haven't they made it against the law for Muslims to preach against homosexuality? Are they too dumb to realize what Islam teaches?

They've observed the same inconsistency at American universities.

22 posted on 08/04/2002 8:38:15 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus; dighton; general_re
They've observed the same inconsistency at American universities.

And in American public schools as well.

From the article:

Seventh graders in a growing number of public schools, who are not permitted to wear a cross or speak the name of Jesus, are being required to attend an intensive three-week course on Islam - a course in which students are mandated to learn the tenets of Islam, study the important figures of the faith, wear a robe, adopt a Muslim name and stage their own Jihad.

In Byron, Calif., parents were outraged when students came home with handouts and were told what was being taught. Their complaints to the school principal not only were ignored, but officials of this public school, funded by tax dollars, essentially fluffed them off.

The public schools in California so stealthily slipped this course into the 7th grade curriculum that even another 7th grade teacher, Elizabeth Christina Lemings, was totally in the dark that this was being taught until her son, Joseph, who is a 7th grader in the same school where she teaches, brought home the handouts.

23 posted on 08/04/2002 8:43:29 AM PDT by Orual
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
I am sorry it has come to that for you, and will keep you and your family in my prayers. I was born in San Diego, but had the good fortune of having my family relocate to the south when I was still very young. You may want to think about a tranfers yourself. You'll find us southerners gracious. =)
24 posted on 08/04/2002 8:47:19 AM PDT by JMJ333
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To: Khepera
"jailed for what we have said already here on FreeRepublic"

I think that if the successful unopposed march of liberalism is not stopped soon it will come to that – jail time for discourse. In California we prosecute "hate speech" pretty intently if it is involved with a crime of violence – it becomes a hate crime and the jail time doubles. (I have to ask do we ever have love crimes?) I assume that the Euro-Nazis will take the lead on the prosecution of plain old speech as they are now doing.

The last step is to let your neighbors turn you in if they suspect you could have uttered hate-words. So yes, depending how voraciously the local prosecutors are you could be spending jail time for saying exactly what we are saying right now!!
25 posted on 08/04/2002 8:48:44 AM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe
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To: Orual
"who are not permitted to wear a cross or
speak the name of Jesus"

There is a case in Minnesota where a kid had a t-shirt that said, "STRAIGHT PRIDE" and he was sent home. The case is going to court.

So yes, you can't offend anyone and if you are a Christian you have to hide it.
27 posted on 08/04/2002 9:01:31 AM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
You can however offend Christians all you want !
28 posted on 08/04/2002 9:11:26 AM PDT by Khepera
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
From a recient article here on free republic.

Excerpt:
(My friend seemed uncharacteristically quiet and when I asked why, told me of an incident that had just happened to a friend of hers as she was walking into the state house. A group of homosexuals and lesbians approached and began threatening her and the others with her, tormenting them with anti-religious slurs. The attempts met with no response. One of the activists then centered on her and tried more aggressively to get her to respond, verbally abusing her until she was in tears. When she said nothing, the activist spat, “I hope your children choke and die in front of you!”)

Now I wonder what hate crime the homosexual activist would be charged with here? I suspect nothing would happen to him but the Christian would be jailed if she had defended herself.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/724701/posts
29 posted on 08/04/2002 9:17:08 AM PDT by Khepera
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To: Khepera
"tormenting them with anti-religious slurs."

I will never understand the concept of a hate crime although I have met up with conservatives on Free Republic that support the notion that there is a difference in a crime because it is caused by hate.

Yes, I have seen the very bold street-queers here in San Francisco who know they can get in your face and speak with impunity.(In case you haven't heard they like being called queer now -- go figure.) You don't have the same freedom if you dress and act normally, so it is in this upside-down world we live in.

Not that I think I'd ever get in a queers face but as I said before that they don't like to even have us conservatives around and they have much superior rights here in California. They are comming to your town soon.
30 posted on 08/04/2002 10:39:47 AM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe
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To: Singapore_Yank
Sodomite Sweden and the rest of the narcisstic Europe will soon choke on their own fascist homo-socialist excrement in the name of "tolerance". Pathetic...
31 posted on 08/04/2002 10:57:18 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: JMJ333; Khepera
Interesting......if you don't like what a person has to say, make it illegal for them to say it.

Our 1st Amendment rights are disappearing quickly......I wonder if freedom of the liberal press will be the only excerpt remaining in that amendment within the next decade?

God bless us all!

32 posted on 08/04/2002 11:11:35 AM PDT by EODGUY
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To: EODGUY
"in that amendment within the next decade"

The liberals today are firmly in control of:

1. Higher and lower education.

2. The news media print and broadcast. (Except for some conservative talk show hosts.)

3. Much of the judical branch of the federal government.

4. Main-line protestant churches and the Roman Catholic church.

5. The state governments of California, Washington and Vermont. (I would guess there are more states but I'm being conservative in my estimate and I only follow CA closely.)

I hate to think about a decade from now.

Would anyone care to add to the list?

33 posted on 08/04/2002 11:59:11 AM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
Somebody oughta get all the straight students in that school to wear a "straight pride" T-shirt. What are they gonna do, send hundreds or thousands of kids home?
34 posted on 08/04/2002 6:06:05 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
I'm sure that the liberals are firmly in control of the Anti-Defamation League.
35 posted on 08/04/2002 6:09:30 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Singapore_Yank
… even if this means throwing out freedom of speech and freedom of religion. The Swedish parliament has passed a constitutional amendment that would make it a crime to teach that homosexual behavior is immoral.

Now they can be like ‘Oh’ Canada, they have "hate" speech laws too. Next comes the pink swastikas.

36 posted on 08/05/2002 5:11:57 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Utmost Certainty
I thought that they were called "Swedomites".
37 posted on 08/05/2002 5:14:17 PM PDT by Redcloak
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To: Khepera
I assume we will all be jailed for what we have said already here on FreeRepublic. It's a perfect record.

Yeah, and do you think that we would allow ourselves to be jailed. One by one, while we do nothing?

38 posted on 08/05/2002 5:23:35 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
No I suspect not.
39 posted on 08/05/2002 7:34:18 PM PDT by Khepera
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To: Khepera
No I suspect not.

That's good to hear. :-)

And we must remember that the Founders themselves were revolutionaries!

40 posted on 08/05/2002 7:52:41 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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