Shrinking population threatens West's culture

Cape Cod Times ^ | 8/2/02 | PATRICIA STEBBINS

[Phillip Augustus]

It is not inevitable the birthrates that currently exist in these nations will not rise again. Even if not, perhaps a leaner, meaner Europe is not a bad thing. Obviously, the welfare state, with a declining population, would not survive. But, it's either the demise of the welfare state or the demise of Europe. If the welfare state can only survive with mass Turd World immigration, and if the welfare state is so sacrosant that it cannot be left to rot Europe will not survive. A Mohammedean Europe is not Europe.

By the way, Spain is the second least Mohammedean-infested nation in Western Europe, behind Portugal. They're not giving up, just yet.

[livius]

Because of its location, Spain has a huge illegal alien Muslim population, although it has so far been able to resist establishing a massive permanent legal alien population, unlike other European countries.

One of the problems is that the welfare state has encouraged this imbalance. Many European states provide per-child payments that were originally designed to encourage native births. But guess what: the natives of those European countries did not have more children, and instead, immigrants (legal or not) benefitted from them. After the families are well installed and living on child payments, the men (who were employed, initially, at least) often return to their home countries, leaving behind families of a mother and 10-12 children. All of these are to be brought up courtesy of the European state in which they reside. Needless to say, their neighborhoods are swamps of unemployment and crime.

You can always tell when you walk into a Muslim area in Spain, btw. Aside from the absence of women and the wailing of Arabic music in the background, you can tell by the fact that the streets are strewn with garbage and filled with young men and boys just hanging out. There have been a number of particularly vicious group rapes (of Spanish women, of course) committed by them in parts of Southern coastal Spain where large Muslim colonies exist. Nationally, over 60% of street crime is committed by "immigrants," who appear to have no interest in peacefully integrating themselves into Spanish culture and life. Yet every time the Spanish resist or complain, all of the liberal press rushes forward and accuses them of being "racists."

I don't know what Europe is going to do; as you have said, a Mohammedan Europe is definitely NOT Europe. One of the big problems, however, is that they are not able to even discuss this problem in Europe. It's not PC. If anybody even raises the matter, the press and the Socialists start to scream that the people discussing it are neo-Nazi fascists. Yet privately Europeans talk about it a lot, and they all know that it is perhaps the biggest problem facing them.

[glory]

Not to put words in my Savior's mouth, but I highly doubt that. Christ knew people were fallen and tended towards evil, that is the reason He walked this earth to save all us sinners who tended towards evil(and that includes ALL of us, including those who don't believe).

[glory]

Baby Boomers could care less about what happens to my generation. All they want is their Social Security. There's no doubt that they are the worst generation in the American history>>

That's the reason I never bought thier parents were the "greatest generation" since they raised the baby boomers.

[glory]

Believe it or not, their culture is superior in a way over ours in the sense that they love and cherish their big families, and they do not abort their babies.>>

Yes, more children to murder Jews. That's a real superior culture.

To them, it is a joy to have another child born in the world. For us, a child is a pain, so we must abort the child>>

Again, read above.

[glory]

Congrats! We have two and will be adding more hopefully before all is said and done.

[glory]

I am going to elaborate on a point that you made. The folks who are having no or less children will be the ones facing extinction and with them thier views(typically pro-abortion, etc). The folks I know repopulating at very decent rates(6,7,8 children) are very conservative Christians(in the US anyway) so what we face in 20+ years is more of us and less of them, so to speak and those children born into those households with 7 siblings may and likely will in turn have large families, well you see the domino effect. As long as we can ward off the third world agressor, I think we'll see a BETTER American in 2 generations since the people who are repopulating this country don't tend to be liberal and have a very strong belief in absolutes.
The only thing I do worry about, and I've seen a little of, is large families becoming "trendy" with the liberal soccer moms. But if I'm right, that is a phase that won't last but 4 or 5 years before you find them back at the counter of Estee Lauder looking for thier fix of wrinkle cream and b*tching about thier sagging belly so it will only infect a small # of them before the trend is over and it is no longer "chic" to have 4 kids.