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"I'M ASHAMED OF THIS" Interview with a 'copter Wildfire Fighter.
The Lars Larson Show ^
| 8/02/02
| AuntB
Posted on 08/02/2002 7:10:45 PM PDT by AuntB
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By the third hour of this show, Lars had Congressman Greg Walden, Newt Gingerich and Mr. Lindamood collectively on the phone. Rep. Walden, who is on the Energy and Commerce and Resources committees has promised to get attention drawn to this situation immediately and he needs OUR encouragement. Greg.walden@mail.house.gov. , 1-800-533-3303.
You can catch Lars Larsons remarkably informative shows on the net or across the Northwest on your radio dial. You may also link to your congress people on his web site. Besides, its usually a good read. WWW.LARSLARSON.COM
The gentleman with Carson Helicopters stated further that he had tried to get the local newspapers and the Oregonian interested in this story, but they didnt have the time to hear it. He also stressed that the USFS has gone "green" and that we are supporting our own downfall by supporting the big Enviromental conglomerates. Don't be mistaken, the donation business is lucrative. Further, he noted that the media is not allowed to approach the fire areas or interview any fire fighters, pilots, etc. by order of the USFS. Noted by another source as well, bulldozers that locals have volunteered are kept from the fires until they pass USFS "inspection" and must only be 1 or 2 years old. Some have sat for days before being allowed to be used against the fire.
Our continued thanks go to Rosemary and Garth Harrington of KCMX, Medford for originally bringing this to our attention early Friday morning when no one else seemed willing to report it.
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posted on
08/02/2002 7:10:45 PM PDT
by
AuntB
To: AuntB
Dip Site ManagerSeems the feds have decided to provide more descriptive job titles to some positions... ;0)
To: Grampa Dave; Mudboy Slim; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; JohnHuang2; countrydummy; sauropod; Jeff Head; ...
Please! Tell someone.
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posted on
08/02/2002 7:15:26 PM PDT
by
AuntB
To: Chad Fairbanks
Is THAT just too much?? I couldn't make up this stuff!
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posted on
08/02/2002 7:16:31 PM PDT
by
AuntB
To: AuntB
Dip Site Manager = Senate Majority Leader
To: AuntB
And we all wonder why forest fires aren't put out in a timely basis. Now we know why. Not only are the fire fighters up against the fire, they're up against bureaucrats, too. How sad.
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posted on
08/02/2002 7:19:47 PM PDT
by
Slip18
To: The Shrew
Coming soon to your Colorado fires.
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posted on
08/02/2002 7:20:24 PM PDT
by
Skeet
To: Skeet
Oops!! Did I spell Durango correctly??? I was going to check that...tsk, tsk! Ping someone, Skeet and thanks!
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posted on
08/02/2002 7:23:19 PM PDT
by
AuntB
To: Slip18
The story just got worse and worse, but this was what I was able to capture. Help us tell others about this, Slip, my neighbors are really suffering around here.
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posted on
08/02/2002 7:25:16 PM PDT
by
AuntB
To: AuntB
Please! Tell someone No, should be...Please fire someone!
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posted on
08/02/2002 7:26:34 PM PDT
by
leadhead
To: AuntB
I've often wondered why somebody in the gubmint doesn't dust off some of those mothballed bombers sitting down there in the Arizona desert, fit them with huge water/fire retardant tanks, and send them out, squadron formation, to "bomb" the hell out of any forest fire that gets to be a nuisance.
Hell, if we could launch thousand-plane bombing raids against Nazi Germany, surely we could put a couple dozen or so Strato-cruisers in round the clock "bombing" operations against a forest fire. Let it rain!
To: Chad Fairbanks
Dip Site Manager
They goofed on the second word. They added an "e" and forgot an "h".
Nik
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posted on
08/02/2002 7:29:58 PM PDT
by
Nik Naym
To: AuntB
I'll send this story to my State Representative tomorrow. I don't think my State Senator McCain would give a darn.
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posted on
08/02/2002 7:36:52 PM PDT
by
Slip18
To: AuntB; Argh; Bella_Bru; camle; CholeraJoe; dubyaismypresident; Gabz; gunshy; hobbes1; lds23; ...
I'm bringing in a "ping" list, too.
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posted on
08/02/2002 7:38:33 PM PDT
by
Slip18
To: AuntB
Better believe it folks, it's just this bad or worse. I'll never forget a big wig bureaucrat several years back who was pissed because some local municipality went over his head and ordered up several C-130 tankers to assist in fighting fires in the hills north east of L.A. He refused to give them any of the "Pink Stuff" (fire retardant) to mix with the water to teach them who the Boss was.
To: NormsRevenge
?Dip Site Manager? = Senate Majority Leader =DIP $HIT
To: AuntB
Our entire system of government is designed to foster ineptitude. The top dogs in the agency are political hacks enjoying three or four years of the best-paid jobs they will ever have. Next down from them are the career senior executives who are selected based on being "generalist managers." See, instead of hiring competent specialists the public administration lobby decided it would be better for themselves if the top career dogs were not expected to be competent in the programs which they administer. The mid-level managers are selected based upon their willingness to hire and tolerate the appropriate racial quotas. The peons are selected based solely on demographics. The longer the fires burn the more time-and-a-half everybody (yep, from top to bottom, chair warming executives all the way down) gets. Fire season is the big pay-off and god only knows what the forest service will find to burn down once they finish off the rest of the national forests.
To: AuntB
bump
To: Slip18; *puff_list
I've brought in the only ping list I've got - but here it is!!
It's getting out of hand - I always thought the nico-nazis were bad, I'm starting to wonder if the enviro-nazis are possibly worse. But they all do the same thing - destroy the rights of others - including destroying the PRIVATE property rights of others.
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posted on
08/02/2002 7:54:38 PM PDT
by
Gabz
To: QuestionBureaucracy
The "peter principle" at its finest.
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posted on
08/02/2002 7:57:23 PM PDT
by
Gabz
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