[A CA Guy]

Yes the Spirit of the Founding Fathers wasn't to be good citizens that would be church goers, but rather those who have the right to do all the drugs they choose!

I don't buy that idea or any that involves legalizing any more vices in the name of some tilted perception of freedom.

[EaglesUpForever]

Where in the Constitution is there anything remotely resembling the control of such "drugs"? I assume you're all for prohibition of alcohol, too...

[SteamshipTime]

When this country was founded, there were no laws prohibiting morphine, opium, tobacco or whiskey. Beer was the beverage of choice for lunch and even breakfast. Nitrous oxide was inhaled at parties, which was where Georgia's Crawford Long got the idea for aenesthesia. Yet, as you point out, most people were godly and community-minded.

Laws breed lawlessness. Without "vice" laws and their social apparatus, people live or die based on their capacity for self-governance. Thus, people with integrity survive, prosper, and form communities of like-minded individuals according to the level of indulgences which they will tolerate.

Vice laws stunt our cultural evolution and actually reward the behavior they seek to ban by making the rewards for purveying vice even higher.

[SunStar]

Yes the Spirit of the Founding Fathers wasn't to be good citizens that would be church goers, but rather those who have the right to do all the drugs they choose!

Our first President grew hemp. Can you grown hemp without being put in jail? Nope. Because you might "get a buzz" from the plant. Gimme a break.

I don't buy that idea or any that involves legalizing any more vices in the name of some tilted perception of freedom.

Uh... Marijuana was not made illegal until the early 1900's... Do some research.

[tacticalogic]

I don't buy that idea or any that involves legalizing any more vices in the name of some tilted perception of freedom.

"There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing, result from marijuana usage. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others."

Harry J. Anslinger, testimony to Congress, 1937

Yup, gotta avoid those tilted perceptions.

[Ken H]

If I recall correctly, your stated position is that the Federal government can bypass the Amendment process and make laws in areas not delegated to it by the Constitution.

I can't remember your exact quote, but it was something to the effect that we would have to have thousands of amendments, which is not practical.

If I have misrepresented your position, I will retract my statement, but I think I have it pretty close.

If that is your position, then you have no credibility to talk about the Founding Fathers, in my opinion.

[laredo44]

I don't buy that idea or any that involves legalizing any more vices in the name of some tilted perception of freedom.

Perhaps you'd share your definition of freedom.

[dcwusmc]

Hey, you still chasing the evil weed? Go here http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/726715/posts?page=34#34 and answer the question OK? Your silence there is quite telling... But I guess it's cause you're too busy chasing dopers down, huh?