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Absinthe (WormWood) Making a comeback in US and Europe - linked to convulsions, madness, and death.
California Department of Alcohol and Drug Programs ^

Posted on 08/01/2002 11:50:58 PM PDT by chance33_98

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To: chance33_98
I can't believe it...40 posts and nobody said it:
Drinking it makes you absinthe minded.

Freepers have better self control than I realized.

41 posted on 08/02/2002 9:57:58 AM PDT by Wm Bach
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To: wardaddy
To me, the case against absinthe was always WOD. Other substances were banned in subsequent decades but I am unaware of anything banned for consumption earlier.

This isn't to justify legalization (of Absinthe or other drugs/attitude execting chemicals) but just my perception.

I have a brewing encyclopedia from the middle of the 19th century and it had a recipe for absinthe. The brewing process was 2 years and I doubt that the novices that are home brewing are letting it go that long. Czech Republic and some other nations have commercial brand bottled Absinthe.

I seem to recall that the brewing book said that recipes vary and that several of the ingredients were supposed to be toxic. No mention was made of hallucinagenic properties (or dillusional visions). There was also a recipe for fermented milk (although I think that it is supposed to distill to a clear alcohol).

Brewing/fermentation is a simple technology. The technology has been lost and regained several times. Fermentation is part of the natural decay breakdown of fruits but it must be distilled in order to collect the concentrated essence for human consumption.

42 posted on 08/02/2002 9:58:00 AM PDT by weegee
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To: MikeJ
The stuff tastes like turpentine

So does gin.

43 posted on 08/02/2002 10:02:37 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: chance33_98
You guys could make a drug thread out of dog show.

Now that would be entertainment!

Man, that's good "labrador"!

44 posted on 08/02/2002 10:04:45 AM PDT by weegee
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To: weegee
I am pretty adept at fermentation myself. Buck is easy to make with some fruits...citrus kicks off quickest...or oddly tomatoes....a little bread or yeast and lots of sugar and a fair amount of water....then just place it in a fairly warm place and wait 4-7 days. Be sure to let the air out daily or it can explode from the fermentation gas build-up. I have never distilled any buck but I think you basically just heat it up and then filter the steam and collect the condensation essentially.

When consumed be prepared for stomach gas. It's quite yeasty.
45 posted on 08/02/2002 10:05:00 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Wm Bach
Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder.
46 posted on 08/02/2002 10:05:37 AM PDT by Publius
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To: wardaddy; Askel5
The articles in there are leftie urban fluff written by Sex In The City types who wish they were men and celebrate the right to abortion...

I'd agree, though I would add that the very point of these magazines (and a good deal of our popular culture) is to mold women into homosexual men. And don't think for a moment that they won't succeed.

In the new universal homo-aesthetic, the ideal female body type is a lean-hipped, muscled "mini-man" with a couple of silicone mounds in place of the honking pecs. The important skills these magazines impart to young women include selecting the right lube for anal sex, improving one's fellating technique, getting away with adultery, and coasting through life for as long as possible without any meaningful human commitments.

Not that men have fared any better. As askel5 has pointed out on another thread, male tourists from "flyover country" who come to places like New Orleans or New York generally dress themselves (unknowingly) in the clothes that the urban gay elite were wearing 2 seasons ago.

It's pitiful.

Two virtues that were once essential to our civilization have become nearly impossible to sustain: chastity in women and dignity in men.

47 posted on 08/02/2002 10:05:49 AM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: Age of Reason
I am one of those rare folks who actually likes the juniper taste of gin...with olives.
48 posted on 08/02/2002 10:06:32 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Redcloak
LOL ... Isn't it a GREAT painting?

And don't forget corks while we're at it ... after all they keep the absinthe from evaporating! &;-)

49 posted on 08/02/2002 10:09:40 AM PDT by 2Trievers
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To: Publius
Absinthe of evidence is not evidence of absinthe.
50 posted on 08/02/2002 10:10:55 AM PDT by Wm Bach
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To: chance33_98
I had absinthe once (taking the 5th on the obvious questions). It has got to be the most foul tasting stuff I ever had. Could bairly manage to choke it down quick enough to get a buzz. And since the basic ingredients are THC and booze the buzz you get is pretty much the same as smoking a joint and doing a shot. Not really sure what the big deal is.
51 posted on 08/02/2002 10:11:19 AM PDT by discostu
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To: cicero's_son
I have much more clarity about the chastity issue when it comes to own daughters. I once long ago viewed chastity as a conquest (ashamedly). Most women's mags purport to be all about the new independent woman but they exist strictly from advertising that is designed to sell things which will make them more attractive to men and thus in the end dependent on us to varying degrees.

The teen versions of these rags are incredibly offensive. They design these rags for tawdry women and market them to post pubescent teen girls. There is not even a pretense of dignity anymore.
52 posted on 08/02/2002 10:17:15 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: HumanaeVitae
Pernod was the drink of choice for the French Foreign Legion.
53 posted on 08/02/2002 10:24:05 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: discostu
The book on Absinthe indicates that an active ingredient is chemically similar to THC, but it is not THC.
54 posted on 08/02/2002 10:25:00 AM PDT by weegee
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To: Tribune7
What does the modern French army drink? What ever it is seems to make them quick to propose surrendering...
55 posted on 08/02/2002 10:27:31 AM PDT by weegee
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To: Billthedrill
involuntary evacuations does not sound like fun to me.
ooops I crapped my pants is not a good way to cap off the evening!
56 posted on 08/02/2002 10:28:20 AM PDT by Delbert
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To: A.J.Armitage
I have a hard time taking anyone's comments on absinthe who thinks there's such a thing as absinthe without wormwood seriously.

Pernod is basically absinthe without the wormwood. It is named after Henri-Louis Pernod, an individual who ran an absinthe factory in France in the early 1800s. As a substitute for wormwood, the modern drink Pernod uses increased amounts of aniseed. Ricard is the name of another modern wormwood-less absinthe.

The above second paragraph was taken from an Absinthe FAQ on the net. Just do like I did AJ. Go to Google.com and type in in "modern absinthe" and hit the "enter" key on your keyboard. It's not hard.

57 posted on 08/02/2002 10:33:43 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: discostu
Are you stating that Thujone is the same as tetrahydrocannabinol delta 8 or delta 9? Hmmmm.
58 posted on 08/02/2002 10:35:37 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Delbert
ooops I crapped my pants is not a good way to cap off the evening!

Admit it - you never tried it.

59 posted on 08/02/2002 10:38:02 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: 2Trievers
You beat me to it...I love that painting.
60 posted on 08/02/2002 10:42:11 AM PDT by truenospinzone
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