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Brady Act Invoked to Prohibit Divorcees From Owning Guns
TheTimesOnline of Northwest Indiana ^ | July 31, 2002 | Bob Kasarda

Posted on 08/01/2002 2:41:28 PM PDT by Selmo

Surprise discovered in local divorce cases

Agreements could strip away the right to own a gun

VALPARAISO -- Porter Superior Court Judge Thomas Webber dug around his desk and pulled out a single-page notice likely to come as a surprise to some recently divorced individuals and their attorneys.

The official-looking document announces in capital letters and bold type that as a result of specific wording used in divorce agreements to protect one or both parties from harm, the federal Brady Act has been invoked. The result is the potential offender loses his or her right to possess a firearm and is required to turn over all weapons.

This triggering of the federal law only recently was discovered by Webber and Porter County Magistrate Katherine Forbes while they were implementing state-mandated changes involving the use of protective orders. The changes, which took effect July 1, limit the use of protective orders to cases involving domestic and family violence, sexual assault and stalking.

The Brady Act is triggered by specific language and conditions commonly made part of divorce agreements in Porter County, said Webber. The first of the three triggers occurs when the person is subject to a court order that restrains him from "harassing, stalking or threatening an intimate partner," according to the notice prepared by Webber.

The final two triggers occur when there is an order prohibiting the use, attempted use or threatened use of physical force, and the order is issued after the person has had an opportunity to be heard.

While some attorneys intentionally may seek to trigger the Brady Act, Webber said others likely are to be surprised by the news. It is on behalf of this latter group, Webber has decided to attach notice of the act to applicable divorce agreements. He also is including a suggestion for alternative language that can be used in the agreement without triggering the Brady Act.

"We are now suggesting lawyers take a closer look at standard language," he said.

A different approach has been taken by Christina Miller, a Lake County Circuit Court magistrate who served on the Protective Order Committee, which recommended the changes to the state's protective order law.

When those rules took effect July 1, she began separating protective orders from divorce agreements. Now, each is handled as its own order, she said.

It is important to be careful when triggering the Brady Act, she said, particularly when it involves police officers, security guards or others who must carry a gun for a living.

"We've seen it," Miller said.

The use of two separate orders is the recommended approach in divorce and paternity cases, said Jeffrey Bercovitz, director of juvenile and family law at the Indiana Judicial Center and staff attorney for the center's Protective Order Committee.

"We think it's cleaner," he said.

Porter County's decision to continue including the protective language within the divorce agreement, however, is a valid approach, said Bercovitz.

Webber was aware of the recommendation for separate orders, but said it has not been pursued in Porter County because it would create too much additional work for the county clerk's office and there would be no financial reimbursement. Filing fees cannot be charged for protective orders, he said.

While the concern about the Brady Act is coming to light only in Porter County, Bercovitz said the threat was around long before the July 1 changes to the protective order law. Counties have just been responding at different speeds.

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Bob Kasarda can be reached at bkasarda@howpubs.com or (219) 462-5151, Ext. 345.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guns
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To: parsifal
They can have my wife when they pry her from my cold dead fingers.
21 posted on 08/01/2002 6:16:24 PM PDT by AdA$tra
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To: Selmo
Brady Act Invoked to Prohibit Divorcees From Owning Guns

Ah, it's the single life for me!

Talk about your unintended consequences: another attempt to rescind the
Second Amendment may just erode the diminishing inclination for the American male
to utter that old phrase:
"Will you marry me?"
22 posted on 08/01/2002 6:21:49 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Selmo
"Webber was aware of the recommendation for separate orders, but said it has not been pursued in Porter County because it would create too much additional work for the county clerk's office and there would be no financial reimbursement."
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The citizenry does not exist for the sake of the bureauacracy. It's the other way 'round.
23 posted on 08/01/2002 6:24:41 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle
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To: harpseal; wardaddy; Jeff Head; pocat; Cap'n Crunch; Shooter 2.5; archy
Ping.
24 posted on 08/01/2002 6:54:37 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: KrisKrinkle
You clearly haven't read Heinlein. Paraphrasing:

"In any sufficiently advanced society, civil servant is semantically equal to civil master."

We may be overdue for some societal devolution.

25 posted on 08/01/2002 6:56:55 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: Selmo
It is important to be careful when triggering the Brady Act, she said, particularly when it involves police officers, security guards or others who must carry a gun for a living.

Oh, but it's not as important when it's just a peon, I guess.

26 posted on 08/01/2002 7:00:58 PM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: Selmo
Porter County can be so damn backwards sometimes - I would have thought they would have fixed things over the years. I guess I was wrong.
28 posted on 08/01/2002 7:30:58 PM PDT by mhking
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To: Sgt. Fury
Not without a fight.
29 posted on 08/01/2002 9:26:24 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: SUSSA
I think Brady is due to sunset but I am certain the Bush administration will keep it intact. Puke. It is worthless and achieves nothing. I would go through my entire litany of how criminals don't buy their guns legally anyway, but then I am preaching to the choir.
30 posted on 08/01/2002 10:58:58 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Selmo
James Brady was a good Republican, but his brain injuries were severe enough to turn him into a Democrat.
31 posted on 08/01/2002 11:07:20 PM PDT by Consort
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To: Jimer
QOTD!
32 posted on 08/01/2002 11:19:58 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Travis McGee
"Not without a fight."

count me in

33 posted on 08/02/2002 8:07:09 AM PDT by phasma proeliator
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To: Dakmar
Indiana ping
34 posted on 08/02/2002 8:09:12 AM PDT by Khepera
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To: redsman
Indiana pinger
35 posted on 08/02/2002 8:24:03 AM PDT by Khepera
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To: Khepera
Just one more victory for the ex and his/her lawyer
36 posted on 08/02/2002 8:30:44 AM PDT by redsman
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To: middie
When individuals are involved in emotional situations like these it often makes very good sense to remove the temptation to give in to a very bad--albeit transitory--impulse. One of my parnters does domestic cases and is very happy when the judge orders the parties to surrender their guns until the stressful period subsides and they are not tempted to cause harm to an adversarial spouse or the lawyer(s).

You've got to be sh***ing me.

Even if I have no history of violence, no record, nothing--you are happy because some P!ssed off chick can deprive me of a constitutionally protected right.

I will never, ever, under any circumstances surrender my firearms voluntarily.

Will you be equally happy when a simple divorce turns into some kind of ugly standoff when the jackbooted thugs come to seize firearms?

Do people actually meekly give up their firearms? Like sheep? I can't imagine how anyone does that. Why hasn't anyone fought back? I can't believe it....

I can't believe it. FMCDH!

37 posted on 08/02/2002 8:33:37 AM PDT by Cogadh na Sith
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To: mercy
You are right- Men, protect yourself- women have the advantage- no matter what. My ex had me arrested and I was forced to move from my home and children DESPITE the fact that I had EYEWITNESSES that I was not even home at the time she claimed I assaulted her...

Women- you should not be happy when other women do this kind of stuff, it does not help solve the real problems
38 posted on 08/02/2002 8:38:45 AM PDT by Mr. K
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To: Shooter 2.5
We know that a police officer would never lay a hand on their spouse.

You must be a psychic, or at least have called Miss Cleo:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,59414,00.html
39 posted on 08/02/2002 8:55:37 AM PDT by AdA$tra
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To: redsman
How is this a victory for the EX?
40 posted on 08/02/2002 9:10:59 AM PDT by Khepera
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