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California Smokers'Contribution To The State Economy -2001/For Informational Purposes

Posted on 08/01/2002 2:59:08 AM PDT by SheLion

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1 posted on 08/01/2002 2:59:08 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: *puff_list; Just another Joe; Gabz; Great Dane; Max McGarrity; Tumbleweed_Connection; red-dawg; ...
I have some more states. Let me know which ones your interested in.
2 posted on 08/01/2002 3:00:12 AM PDT by SheLion
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Hmm, why is California having a budget deficit then? The Rats naturally proposed increase taxes on smokers to close up the gap.
3 posted on 08/01/2002 3:00:58 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: SheLion
Got anything on the People's Republic of Maine?
4 posted on 08/01/2002 3:08:36 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: goldstategop
Hmm, why is California having a budget deficit then? The Rats naturally proposed increase taxes on smokers to close up the gap.

How a Tax on Cigarettes Can Help The Taxed

5 posted on 08/01/2002 3:15:24 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: Madame Dufarge
Got anything on the People's Republic of Maine?

Much to my dismay, not yet. I am DYING to get ahold of it.

6 posted on 08/01/2002 3:16:14 AM PDT by SheLion
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States Look to Cigarettes as Way to Cut Big Deficits
7 posted on 08/01/2002 3:27:17 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: *all
Hooked on Cigarette Taxes
8 posted on 08/01/2002 3:54:50 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
Got anything on "The Peoples Collective of Ohio"?
9 posted on 08/01/2002 9:17:16 AM PDT by steve50
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Got anything on "The Peoples Collective of Ohio"?

Shoot, Steve! I have Arkansas, Arizona, California, Delaware, Hawaii, Florida, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi,Missouri, Montana, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Tennessee and Texas.

I should have some more soon.

10 posted on 08/01/2002 12:39:16 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
Total packs sold = 1,270,376,000

Sales taxes paid = packs sold multiplied by sales tax rate (7.25% or $.27 per pack).

Number of smokers (4,235,446)

From these numbers we can calculate that the average pack costs $3.60. And that, with sales tax, California smokers spent $4,916,355,120.00 on cigarettes, or almost $5 billion.

Dividing by the (estimated) number of smokers shows us that the average smoker spends $1,161 on cigarettes each year, inclusive of taxes.

FYI, purchasers of loose tobacco pay neither the settlement costs nor the excise tax, only the sales tax (on a lower priced product). Roll your own and avoid taxes!

11 posted on 08/01/2002 3:45:48 PM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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FYI, purchasers of loose tobacco pay neither the settlement costs nor the excise tax, only the sales tax (on a lower priced product). Roll your own and avoid taxes!

Thanks so much! But for your information, I HAVE been rolling my own for over a year. I can roll a beautiful carton for UNDER $8.00. And the savings is mind-boggling!

And just the fact that our hard earned money isn't going into the state coffers anymore is SO sweet!! Thanks, Diogenes!!

12 posted on 08/01/2002 4:34:11 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: Looking for Diogenes; SheLion
FYI, purchasers of loose tobacco pay neither the settlement costs nor the excise tax, only the sales tax (on a lower priced product). Roll your own and avoid taxes!

I hate to be a wet blanket, but this is only partially correct.

There is actually an excise tax on loose tobacco - it's not a cigarette tax - it is an OTP (other tobacco product) tax. OTP taxes apply to loose cigarette tobacco, pipe tobacco, cigars, chewing tobacco and snuff.

I'm not sure how the fderal tax works on it - but the states calculate this tax as a percentage of the wholesale price, similar to aregular sales tax. They do work out to be much lower than the cigarette taxes all the way around.

I'm getting a niggling feeling up the back of my neck that those of us rolling our own and promoting the practice should start being a bit more circumspect about it. the same with promoting the internet option for those who choose not to make them.

WE all know how powerful this forum is - we know politicos read here on a regular basis - and we are all well aware of the anti-smoker faction that not only reads, but harrasses us here.

It's just something I've been thinking about, and something we all might want to think about as well. FReepmail is a wonderful alternative to get info to folks or to share email addy's!!!! (thank you JR!!!)

Just some thoughts ......................

13 posted on 08/01/2002 7:06:48 PM PDT by Gabz
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SheLion
How about some info on Illinois?
(Not that I care anymore, thanks to yesmokes!)
I just want to know how bad the screw job is.
14 posted on 08/01/2002 7:32:28 PM PDT by watcher1
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To: Gabz
There is actually an excise tax on loose tobacco - it's not a cigarette tax - it is an OTP (other tobacco product) tax. OTP taxes apply to loose cigarette tobacco, pipe tobacco, cigars, chewing tobacco and snuff.

I'm afraid you're right. You've burst my bubble. The best I've found is that the excise tax is the same on cigarrettes as on other tobacco products, 56% of wholesale (whew!). Of course, the wholesale cost is much lower.

I'm getting a niggling feeling up the back of my neck that those of us rolling our own and promoting the practice should start being a bit more circumspect about it. the same with promoting the internet option for those who choose not to make them.

Always somebody watching, eh? You may be right.

15 posted on 08/01/2002 8:10:14 PM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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watcher:

I have Arkansas, Arizona, California, Delaware, Hawaii, Florida, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi,Missouri, Montana, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Tennessee and Texas.

I should have some more soon.

16 posted on 08/01/2002 9:56:09 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
Do you have stats for Nevada?
17 posted on 08/02/2002 11:04:52 PM PDT by brat
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I have Arkansas, Arizona, California, Delaware, Hawaii, Florida, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi,Missouri, Montana, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Tennessee and Texas.

I should have some more soon.

18 posted on 08/03/2002 12:05:57 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
What is wrong with this picture?
19 posted on 08/03/2002 12:07:25 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: Saundra Duffy
What is wrong with this picture?

Unless you're am addicted smoker whose life revolves around cigarettes the answer is simple.

California Smokers' voluntary Contribution To The State Economy -2001/For Informational Purposes

20 posted on 08/03/2002 6:47:29 AM PDT by lewislynn
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